Range for AWD Cybertruck 200-250 miles after many real world tests

[cvalue13]

These tests from CTs are like 58% of their advertised range,

just point of process:

the “advertised range” that’s been given is the EPA blended, not the EPA hwy

an EPA blended 320mi is easily an EPA Hwy of 290-280

and that’s at EPA hwy conditions



on one hand, I’m all for reality checks - BEV trucks will get slaughtered at higher speeds, it’s physics

in the other hand, the CT AWD does not have an advertised hwy range of 340 - on ATs it’s got an advertise 318 blended, and we’ve not seen the EPA hwy rating (but I’d expect it at ~285)

do a sustained hwy drive at 80, and you’re well south of that

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[Woodrick]

Why in the F*** would you charge to 90%? You do realize that the last 20% is going to take as long as the 14-70%? - Because you need more than 161 miles to get to the next supercharger............

Right now the only people doing real world testing and reporting on these trucks that have been in the works for 4 years and were delivered a month ago area a handful of Twitter/Youtube posters. Would LOVE some more info. As far as the mfg site for info.......said 500+ miles of range until pretty recently......

OMG, you gotta stop listeing to YouTubers whose job it to create views and controversy.

And the Tesla site only said 500 miles because it hadn't been updated in years. And from conversations that I've heard from the engineers, they really tried for it, it was just brought the cost of the truck up too much and wouldn't hardly be utilized.

There's already some other mentions of well above 161 mile, something like 280.

Superchargers from Atlanta to Miami are placed about every 50 miles or better.

 

[Woodrick]

just point of process:

the “advertised range” that’s been given is the EPA blended, not the EPA hwy

an EPA blended 320mi is easily an EPA Hwy of 290-280

and that’s at EPA hwy conditions



on one hand, I’m all for reality checks - BEV trucks will get slaughtered at higher speeds, it’s physics

in the other hand, the CT AWD does not have an advertised hwy range of 340 - on ATs it’s got an advertise 318 blended, and we’ve not seen the EPA hwy rating (but I’d expect it at ~285)

do a sustained hwy drive at 80, and you’re well south of that

Do a drive at 45 and you'll get way north of it.

 

[Gigahorse]

just point of process:

the “advertised range” that’s been given is the EPA blended, not the EPA hwy

an EPA blended 320mi is easily an EPA Hwy of 290-280

and that’s at EPA hwy conditions



on one hand, I’m all for reality checks - BEV trucks will get slaughtered at higher speeds, it’s physics

in the other hand, the CT AWD does not have an advertised hwy range of 340 - on ATs it’s got an advertise 318 blended, and we’ve not seen the EPA hwy rating (but I’d expect it at ~285)

do a sustained hwy drive at 80, and you’re well south of that

I don't disagree with those points of nuance. Tires make a difference, weather makes a difference, speed makes a big difference. But 500+ > 340 > 318 >to sub 200

A lot of people are trying to grin and bare it with the 500+ to 340 jump, with some of these real world numbers showing well under 200 I really hope Tesla is having a software issue that can be easily fixed over the air.

 

[Gigahorse]

OMG, you gotta stop listeing to YouTubers whose job it to create views and controversy.

And the Tesla site only said 500 miles because it hadn't been updated in years. And from conversations that I've heard from the engineers, they really tried for it, it was just brought the cost of the truck up too much and wouldn't hardly be utilized.

There's already some other mentions of well above 161 mile, something like 280.

Superchargers from Atlanta to Miami are placed about every 50 miles or better.

"OMG, you gotta stop listeing to YouTubers whose job it to create views and controversy."

The truck was announced 4 years ago, it was delivered well over a month ago. The ONLY information from deliveries is from people posting on Youtube, Twitter, etc.

If you find a report from Reuters or Car and Driver I am all ears, but for those of us trying to make the decision to pay up for these vehicles some information is better than none.

Oh and FYI 2/3 of the posts/vids that have come in are from CT owners who are Tesla employees. So don't think they are trying to create controversy publicly posting vehicle info.

 

[Woodrick]

"OMG, you gotta stop listeing to YouTubers whose job it to create views and controversy."

The truck was announced 4 years ago, it was delivered well over a month ago. The ONLY information from deliveries is from people posting on Youtube, Twitter, etc.

If you find a report from Reuters or Car and Driver I am all ears, but for those of us trying to make the decision to pay up for these vehicles some information is better than none.

Oh and FYI 2/3 of the posts/vids that have come in are from CT owners who are Tesla employees. So don't think they are trying to create controversy publicly posting vehicle info.

Sure, go ahead and believe all of your "facts" But they are already being proved "not quite the truth"

 

[Gigahorse]

Sure, go ahead and believe all of your "facts" But they are already being proved "not quite the truth"

I mean videos and images of real world trips by people in the CT is a lot more facts than we have gotten. Maybe not perfect buuuuuuut considering the information we have gotten after 4 years and a month post delivery, nice to get a little info, especially as about half of it is coming from Tesla employees.

 

[Crissa]

1. 2/3 have owned 2 teslas and have over 200,000 miles of driving teslas
2. it is the highway so kinda have to
3. accelerate really fast. - unlikely on a 3,000 mile road trip
4. Know where the v4 chargers are; - all 3 of them in the US?
5. (Wait for the v4 and Cybertruck battery shakeout period,) - v4 several years out
6. Have a target charge of under 10% to arrive at; - sub 20% sure, sub 10% risky
7. Stop charging when you have the minimum to get to the next charger. - with 178 miles of range thats gonna be pretty often

1. Irrelevant. They're early into trucks, early into the Cybertruck. It needs time for them to develop.
2. No, they don't. The speed limit there isn't higher than 70, and much of it is lower.
3. Dude, no evidence?
4. Did you read the next line?
5. Did you read your answer to the former line?
6. Teslas don't shut off at 0. Just try not to hit it. Slow down if you miss your estimate, that'll increase your range by alot.
7. Not many gaps on the highway system are that big anymore.

-Crissa

 

[Gigahorse]

1. Irrelevant. They're early into trucks, early into the Cybertruck. It needs time for them to develop. - Tesla employees with 5+ years of driving EVs need time to develop?
2. No, they don't. The speed limit there isn't higher than 70, and much of it is lower. - Um try 80MPH with traffic doing 85+
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[Bkb13]

Is this argument starting to fall apart yet?

Here’s another image posted on X.

454 Wh/mi over 748 miles…

 

[cvalue13]

Tires make a difference

At 75mph sustained driving, Rivian R1T move from street to AT tires results in a 30% drop in range compared to the Rivian street.

30%.

End of the day, these realities as applied to the Ct were pretty well predictable once “340 miles” flashed on the screen (or sooner than that for those paying close attention beforehand)

It’s a large truck, on 35” tires, with a 123kWh pack.

Speed + AT tires kill.


which is only to say that, the data coming out - more or less - isn’t all that surprising.

before the CT, the Rivian and Lightning were both indicators of the physics involved

 

[cvalue13]

454 Wh/mi over 748 miles…

did they mention the average speed?

 

[Woodrick]

I mean videos and images of real world trips by people in the CT is a lot more facts than we have gotten. Maybe not perfect buuuuuuut considering the information we have gotten after 4 years and a month post delivery, nice to get a little info, especially as about half of it is coming from Tesla employees.

I stand by my statement. You aren't seeing reality.

 

[Bkb13]

did they mention the average speed?

Nothing but the pic.

Another one…

On the freeway…

 

[Tanquen]

What kind of info does Tesla give the driver these days? It's not like Tesla's just starting out and has only made a few hundred of one model of EV.

They've been working on the Cybertruck long enough and have had a number of different models of EVs with different battery sizes for a number of years. It seems they should have a ton of really good data on what kind of range you can actually expect out of a particular car with a particular battery size.

Basically it seems like there's just too many variables to be able to give a single good number for the maximum miles of a particular vehicle that is meaningful to everyone. Is it summer or winter, are there 400 lb worth of tools in the vehicle at all times, are there a lot of hills, is it really snowy or rainy or windy, do you drive really aggressively, are you more of a hypermiler etc.

I know there'd be too many numbers and it would probably be too confusing, but I'd like a window sticker that showed me the average miles per kilowatt hour for the manufacturer (across all models), for the actual vehicle, and one or two for differing weather conditions or environments and maybe driving styles.

Not really sure what to do about it. It just feels like there's a good amount of data there that's not being expressed in the best way possible to the end user.

The car itself should be able to use your driving style over the past 1000 mi or something, your location, the weather and so on to really dial in what your current total range is whenever you start the car. If it's not already doing that.

Maybe it could encourage folks to take it easy by flashing a big dollar amount based on your location and cost of electricity from your provider, whenever you put the vehicle in park. Like what the last trip just cost you. Maybe even a second number showing you what it could have cost you, had you driven in your and the cars chill mode.

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