CYBERBEAST or AWD (WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY AND WHY)

[Gaximus]

Let me keep this simple. You don’t need a Beast. The AWD has plenty of horsepower and speed and it rides better, costs less and is objectively more capable off-road because of front and rear mechanical lockers.

It does not ride better, if you put them both in standard mode, you wouldn’t be able to tell which one you’re driving. Also mechanical lockers are not better. Have two motors that can do the exact same thing as a mechanical lockers. Also you can take corners with software lockers having them turn and different rates, while not loosing torque to either. Also the cyber truck isn’t a great offroad vehicle any way(yes very capable) but if your doing rock crawling or anything serious, it’s just too long and heavy.

The OP asked which is better for day to day driving, and they drive the same expect power. If your the type of driver that likes to be able to hammer It when trying to merge because the idiot won’t let you in, and get in front of them without them being able to do anything about it. Go for the cyber truck. When I got my model S, I always regretted not going for the plaid. I have no regrets with the Beast

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[dalton108]

It does not ride better, if you put them both in standard mode, you wouldn’t be able to tell which one you’re driving. Also mechanical lockers are not better. Have two motors that can do the exact same thing as a mechanical lockers. Also you can take corners with software lockers having them turn and different rates, while not loosing torque to either. Also the cyber truck isn’t a great offroad vehicle any way(yes very capable) but if your doing rock crawling or anything serious, it’s just too long and heavy.

The OP asked which is better for day to day driving, and they drive the same expect power. If your the type of driver that likes to be able to hammer It when trying to merge because the idiot won’t let you in, and get in front of them without them being able to do anything about it. Go for the cyber truck. When I got my model S, I always regretted not going for the plaid. I have no regrets with the Beast

Let me stop you right there with that “you’re doing it wrong” nonsense. I’m sorry friend, with regard to the ride quality, you’re just wrong.

This has nothing to do with settings. There is nothing that you can do, as a user, to make the CyberBeast not have a front wheel drive bias and since it’s just physics, you can’t get rid of the skip without Tesla updating the software.

It’s only noticeable under certain road conditions and maybe where you live the roads are perfectly smooth and you’ve never experienced it. Which is, I suppose possible. But that doesn’t change the reality of what the truck does. Also, you wouldn’t experience it if your roads are perfectly rough gravel etc. it’s only under certain very weird conditions where there’s a sudden change in elevation like certain potholes and repair patches and other road anomalies that cause it to happen. Unfortunately, where I am we have a shit ton of those.

With regard to the lockers. Again, I’m not an expert but folks who are would disagree with you vehemently from what I’ve seen. The best algorithms from Tesla and Rivian have been demonstrated to be less capable than a mechanical locker in the field and in tests.

I can’t say categorically that you’re wrong on that (you are on the other - ride characteristics), but I’m unaware of anyone who is well-versed in the subject that would agree with your position.

 

[sefar]

I have bought 3 a Teslas, currently own a 18 MS and a FS CT. To me the choice is always about range. Thr CB/plaid will go faster but not as far and that can become important as batteries age and degrade. In every day driving you are unlikely to know which you are driving.

The blast off from the 2 motor will still give you a case of the grins--mine does after years of ownership. We are programmed to want faster /bigger/more. If you want to avoid regrets get the CB. Or drive a 2 motor first and compare.

 

[cbertgo]

Let me keep this simple. You don’t need a Beast. The AWD has plenty of horsepower and speed and it rides better, costs less and is objectively more capable off-road because of front and rear mechanical lockers.

I say this as a FS/CB owner. It’s fantastic, but you don’t need all that quickness and you’re never gonna use it legally, or frankly- at all. It’s not a dragster and even though it’s quick 0 to 60, you’ll get smoked eventually in anything over a quarter mile by anything that’s roughly 0 to 60 in three seconds with a higher top speed - ANYTHING. You are hard limited at 130mph, you get there quick, and then there’s nothing you can do (but get spanked and take it like a man) after you inevitably max out. See any drag race video on YouTube.

Like all of them, my beast is front wheel drive biased in daily driving and it’s noticeable. AND there are times when the front axle will skip because of this. It hits hard, it’s jarring and it’s very unpleasant. I spent a day with an all-wheel-drive foundation series while my truck was in the shop and found it to be way more refined and compliant.

So, to sum this up: you do not need a CB. I don’t need one. And if I had to do it all over again I would still buy a CB, because I am flawed as a human being and need to be able to own the quickest baddest version available. It’s ridiculous! Don’t do it!

Ray Romano used to have a bit about how his mom would hassle him about getting a college degree because … well … he would be able to say that he was a “college graduate.” His response was well I can say it anyway! What’s gonna happen I’m gonna open my mouth to say it and only get out I’m a “kkasaalkkka gwohljsk?”

It’s fucking fantastic, but you don’t need it unless you’re simply looking for verifiable bragging rights.

*Besides this, the best advice I can give you is don’t listen to @CyberGus!

I kid, I kid!

I think I like this response best. As a CB owner I don’t use the speed and I could have saved the money. FSD is improving nicely but not up to par with the cars yet. It would take a load off of driving so many miles. I have my insurance with Tesla and my premiums seem to be dropping the more I use FSD. Beast mode would not help me lower premiums. AWD and FSD , the winning combination.

 

[hbutler]

I have an AWD and my only regret is I didn’t get a beast. CT handles like a large sports sedan. If I had spent more time driving it before I purchased my AWD, I definitely would have went with the Beast because of the confidence the handling provides. I feel myself wanting more power at times.

In saying that we have a plaid S and X and that could be the main driver for how I feel about the awd.

 

[Cyberhugo1]

LOL thanks for that since I am here still reserching might as well tell you that while having the TRX i never did a lunch control and only daily driven it. Yes a pull here and there but that's it i have my m3 if i want to hit the track. What is like driving the CB daily is my main concern. Will it get ruined like what happened with the TRX or should i stick to the AWD and hopefully i won't feel bad for not getting the beast.

You won't be dissapointed with the AWD, it will also save you a lot of money.

 

[CybertruckRN1127]

AWD. You don't need the 0-60. It's fast, but not really use it everyday. The AWD also doesn't have the problem that the beast has which is the front wheels/motor losing power when going over bumps or slippery surfaces. There is something weird with the front motor on the Beast that I didn't experience in the AWD loaner I had from Tesla. I think the Beast is a FWD most of the time and AWD is RWD most of the time. I had a better driving experience in the AWD.

 

[Bridgeboy69]

, but landed on an AWD and have absolutely no regrets.

Plus how often are you gonna need to race a Lamborghini on the steeets lol

Slapping Cerberus on it was definitely truth in advertising.

Good god that’s literally what I was going to type.

Arguably, if you’re not using the beast superpowers ,

. Also the cyberbeast motors have failed repeatedly for most consumers. T

How often are you going to launch? Honestly? how important is it to be first at every single stop light?

I'm just going to attempt to sum-up a response that addresses all these quotes I snipped as I read through this 4-page thread:

The Beast is not about using it's power...doesn't matter how often you need it or actually use it: it's about knowing you have it in case of a Zombie apocolypse, or similar, potential, real-world apocoplyptic event...

The same thing is true with 90%+ of people who ever buy a fast race car, muscle car or otherwsie...they never actually use the power, but they know they can if they ever want to. Same thing about 80%+ of pickup truck owners. They don't actually use the bed of their truck for anything regularly, but they know it's there in case their girlfriend's mother-in-law needs a washer and dryer moved on some weekend one day in the future.

Almost no high-end items humans buy are to actually use them. It's to know they can use them if/when needed.

Same goes with 99% of firearms sold. ~99% of firearm owners don't go around shooting people. But they know they can if the situation presents itself (like a zombie apocoplyse). ???‍

So, it’s very real though some CB owners (like yourself apparently) have said they don’t experience it. I have no idea how that’s possible and it was a day one issue for me.

I never experienced this, even when going over speed bumps, etc.

but I’m unaware of anyone who is well-versed in the subject that would agree with your position.

I don't care what anyone "well-versed' has to say. If I made all my decisions by what other "well-versed" people told me all the time I would live in an oxygen pressurized bunker wrapped in bubble wrap with a gas mask on at all times. I only care about my personal experience and what I think about it.

I feel myself wanting more power at times.

I have an AWD and my only regret is I didn’t get a beast.

^^^THIS^^^ Is the answer.

You can always regret not buying the best, wishing that you just went for the best, but the only reason you can regret not buying the 2nd best, is if your wallet is really being stretched between the two. Only you can make that decision based upon your personal situation and finances...

But don't forget the zombie apolcolypse angle....you never know...??‍?

(You will have wished you had that third motor and 850-HP in this circumstance...trust me...)

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[IntoTheRain916]

From what I’ve seen, folks with the Cyberbeast seem to have a tiny sprinkle of buyer’s remorse when it comes to the AWD—they’ve got all that power but can't really justify it. Meanwhile, AWD owners like myself are out here trying to convince themselves they need a Cyberbeast just to keep up… .. . . ..with their own regrets hahahaha.

 

[ABILISK]

From what I’ve seen, folks with the Cyberbeast seem to have a tiny sprinkle of buyer’s remorse when it comes to the AWD—they’ve got all that power but can't really justify it. Meanwhile, AWD owners like myself are out here trying to convince themselves they need a Cyberbeast just to keep up… .. . . ..with their own regrets hahahaha.

I definitely don’t have buyer’s remorse in going with the beast, but I can’t help agree with people thinking it was a silly move paying an extra $20K (more now that the tax credit applies) for a faster 0-60. I know it wasn’t the most responsible use of my money, but gosh darn it I stand by it!

 

[L3it3R]

I'm just going to attempt to sum-up a response that addresses all these quotes I snipped as I read through this 4-page thread

Trimmed because ... wow

Anyway. No, zero regrets not getting the beast. Literally ZERO.

 

[dalton108]

I definitely don’t have buyer’s remorse in going with the beast, but I can’t help agree with people thinking it was a silly move paying an extra $20K (more now that the tax credit applies) for a faster 0-60. I know it wasn’t the most responsible use of my money, but gosh darn it I stand by it!

Ditto-ish. No regrets, and getting what I want is never silly. I want what I want, and I get what I want. I’ve earned the privilege from the sweat of my brow. Nobody’s given me anything and I, alone, decide how to allocate the fruits of my labor [unless my wife tells me I can’t].

Another member earlier said that his decision always comes down to range mine always comes down to horsepower and speed. when it comes to electric cars, you can go far, or you can go fast! All things being equal, I will always choose to go fast!

My buying choices are consistent and preordained:

Model 3? Performance!
Model S? Plaid!
Cybertruck? Beast!

 

[Cybertruck Dude]

Let me break it down for you this fine Saturday—because clearly, I have nothing better to do. One’s got three motors, the other’s got two. And surprise surprise: three motors means it hits 0-60 so fast it might question your life choices.

I can attest to this! There’s a huge difference. If you can afford to buy a beast you won’t regret it. I originally ordered a AWD but by the time my order got placed for four years later, I had saved the money to afford the beast. I have zero regrets! I am glad I bought the beast! My 2 cents…..?

 

[Killlbox]

Beast owner here.
I (wife) wanted a sports car.
Husband wanted a truck.

We figured we saved at least $100k choosing the Beast since we both got everything we wanted.

 

[Mal]

From what I’ve seen, folks with the Cyberbeast seem to have a tiny sprinkle of buyer’s remorse when it comes to the AWD—they’ve got all that power but can't really justify it.

No buyer's remorse here. I love the beast, even though I don't unleash it that often.

It's like in commercial flying. The AWD is business class, which is great and an awesome upgrade. But you're still sitting behind first class.

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