The search for 2nd place

[ABILISK]

Obviously, we all know Cybertruck is the greatest vehicle ever conceived - that goes without saying. But there’s 2 things: primary trucks and secondary trucks.

Your primary? You drive that when you wanna have fun and can do it safely. Secondary? That’s what you drive when you enter risky territory.

Unfortunately, Cybertruck’s met with hatred/jealousy everywhere it goes, especially in big cities. While we shouldn’t have to worry about such things, some of us might be forced to drive something else or risk our trucks being vandalized.

I’ve spent a good part of the past week exploring other EV trucks as secondary options. If you’re offended by this, read the title and that first sentence again.

Here’s a brief comparison of the top trims of the EV trucks available today, starting with our beloved Cyberbeast. I’ll compare price, range, acceleration, top speed, horsepower, torque, towing/payload capacity, etc.

Let’s begin…
1. Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast
- $99,990
- 320 mi range (est)
- 2.6 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 845 horsepower
- 864 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity
- 2,500 lbs payload capacity
2. Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum
- $84,995
- 300 mi range (est)
- 4.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 110 mph top speed
- 580 horsepower
- 775 lb-ft torque
- 8,500 lbs towing capacity
3. Chevy Silverado EV First-Edition RST
- $96,495
- 440 mi range (est)
- 4.1 sec 0-60 mph
- 113 mph top speed
- 754 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
4. GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range
- $100,605
- 478 mi range (est)
- 4.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 760 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
5. GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck 3X
- $107,145
- 367 mi range (est)
- 3.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 1,000 horsepower
- 400 lb-ft torque
- 12,000 lbs towing capacity
6. Rivian R1T Quad
- $115,990
- 374 mi range (est)
- 2.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 1,025 horsepower
- 1,198 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity

Again, these are the top trims. Other trims get incrementally worse. Only thing close to Cyberbeast is the R1T. It seems that legacy automakers aren’t keeping up (shocker).

Rivian could be a decent option for a secondary truck, but, quite honestly, it would hurt spending that kind of money for a lesser truck when you could get a second Cyberbeast and write it up as a loss. Getting a second Cyberbeast would all but guarantee one would get damaged, but you’d have your good one for when it mattered. Getting a secondary truck would assure you have both trucks ready to roll for whatever situation comes up. Maybe when the Slate comes out, this will be more viable? Though I’d argue a Model Y is a far more capable vehicle for “truck stuff” than a Slate is. Slate is sad and pathetic.

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[hemiarch]

Our second car is a model x and while it sounds crazy, when that thing is laid flat inside it’s functionally like a truck.
I know the Tesla hate extends to that too but for some reason it seems to be publicly pretty invisible.
if we want to go downtown anonymously, that’s what we take.
We considered each of the above options but in the end, none of them had the Tesla
supercharging network (at least in an organic inexpensive way) and none of them had FSD. So no thank you. Those are both things that are prerequisites for us.
in addition, we got our first model x in 2016 and what I’m trying to say by that is that there are plenty of reasonably priced low mileage examples that are just as technologically sophisticated for the most part due to Tesla’s upgrade approach.
that makes them the best value proposition of all the options in my opinion .
In fact, in some ways they even have certain advantages over our trucks.
They are ultimate dropoff/pickup machines due to having powered control of every hole in the car and the extreme utility of the falcon wing doors.

 

[ABILISK]

Our second car is a model x and while it sounds crazy, when that thing is laid flat inside it’s functionally like a truck.
I know the Tesla hate extends to that too but for some reason it seems to be publicly pretty invisible.
if we want to go downtown anonymously, that’s what we take.
We considered each of the above options but in the end, none of them had the Tesla
supercharging network (at least in an organic inexpensive way) and none of them had FSD. So no thank you. Those are both things that are prerequisites for us.
in addition, we got our first model x in 2016 and what I’m trying to say by that is that there are plenty of reasonably priced low mileage examples that are just as technologically sophisticated for the most part due to Tesla’s upgrade approach.
that makes them the best value proposition of all the options in my opinion .
In fact, in some ways they even have certain advantages over our trucks.
They are ultimate dropoff/pickup machines due to having powered control of every hole in the car and the extreme utility of the falcon wing doors.

It’s definitely a requirement to have an anonymous/invisible vehicle when going downtown or anywhere you can’t get back to your vehicle quickly (sports games, theme parks, etc).

 

[BlueLightning]

Obviously, we all know Cybertruck is the greatest vehicle ever conceived - that goes without saying. But there’s 2 things: primary trucks and secondary trucks.

We’ll likely looks like Tesla took the second place for the requested Cybervan…theirs looks like a Cybertruck with camper and extra plastic molding, but it’s still a van.

 

[YDR37]

6. Rivian R1T Quad
- $115,990
- 374 mi range (est)
- 2.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 1,025 horsepower
- 1,198 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity

Again, these are the top trims. Other trims get incrementally worse. Only thing close to Cyberbeast is the R1T. It seems that legacy automakers aren’t keeping up (shocker).

Rivian could be a decent option for a secondary truck, but, quite honestly, it would hurt spending that kind of money for a lesser truck when you could get a second Cyberbeast and write it up as a loss.

If you are only looking for a secondary vehicle, then maybe it makes sense to buy used. And in that case, the price of a Rivian R1T Quad doesn't have to be prohibitively high. The recent introduction of the second-generation Rivian Quads in 2025 has driven down the prices of used first-generation Quads.

For example, consider this 2023 Rivian R1T Adventure Quad Motor Large Pack with 45,575 miles (full specs here):

- $52,142
- 328 mi range
- 3.0 sec 0-60
- 125 mph top speed
- 835 horsepower
- 907 lb-ft torque
- 11,023 lbs towing capacity

Admittedly, those specs don't quite match up to a brand new second-generation 2025 R1T Quad. But they aren't a joke, and the price is 55% lower.

 

[JimBuck333]

Obviously, we all know Cybertruck is the greatest vehicle ever conceived - that goes without saying. But there’s 2 things: primary trucks and secondary trucks.

Your primary? You drive that when you wanna have fun and can do it safely. Secondary? That’s what you drive when you enter risky territory.

Unfortunately, Cybertruck’s met with hatred/jealousy everywhere it goes, especially in big cities. While we shouldn’t have to worry about such things, some of us might be forced to drive something else or risk our trucks being vandalized.

I’ve spent a good part of the past week exploring other EV trucks as secondary options. If you’re offended by this, read the title and that first sentence again.

Here’s a brief comparison of the top trims of the EV trucks available today, starting with our beloved Cyberbeast. I’ll compare price, range, acceleration, top speed, horsepower, torque, towing/payload capacity, etc.

Let’s begin…
1. Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast
- $99,990
- 320 mi range (est)
- 2.6 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 845 horsepower
- 864 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity
- 2,500 lbs payload capacity
2. Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum
- $84,995
- 300 mi range (est)
- 4.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 110 mph top speed
- 580 horsepower
- 775 lb-ft torque
- 8,500 lbs towing capacity
3. Chevy Silverado EV First-Edition RST
- $96,495
- 440 mi range (est)
- 4.1 sec 0-60 mph
- 113 mph top speed
- 754 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
4. GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range
- $100,605
- 478 mi range (est)
- 4.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 760 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
5. GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck 3X
- $107,145
- 367 mi range (est)
- 3.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 1,000 horsepower
- 400 lb-ft torque
- 12,000 lbs towing capacity
6. Rivian R1T Quad
- $115,990
- 374 mi range (est)
- 2.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 1,025 horsepower
- 1,198 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity

Again, these are the top trims. Other trims get incrementally worse. Only thing close to Cyberbeast is the R1T. It seems that legacy automakers aren’t keeping up (shocker).

Rivian could be a decent option for a secondary truck, but, quite honestly, it would hurt spending that kind of money for a lesser truck when you could get a second Cyberbeast and write it up as a loss. Getting a second Cyberbeast would all but guarantee one would get damaged, but you’d have your good one for when it mattered. Getting a secondary truck would assure you have both trucks ready to roll for whatever situation comes up. Maybe when the Slate comes out, this will be more viable? Though I’d argue a Model Y is a far more capable vehicle for “truck stuff” than a Slate is. Slate is sad and pathetic.

To be honest, we have been taking necessary trips to Manhattan (NYC) pretty regularly, and what we've been seeing lately is the foreign tourists on all the streets and sidewalks snapping pictures and being generally in awe at seeing a CT live probably for the first time. None of the hate (other than perhaps a very occasional flipped bird). To your point, we were considering taking our old Y for these trips, and did that once or twice, but have since deemed it unnecessary...

 

[tingmo13]

all I want is a smaller Cybertruck-I don't give a damn about people's reaction/hate. Both my cars are Tesla-neighbors, friends, co workers warned me during 'hate hype'-I told them all things are impermanent-it too will fade away. We will also fade away from this World-so, I will enjoy my life & let things Pass/Go.

 

[sys700]

Obviously, we all know Cybertruck is the greatest vehicle ever conceived - that goes without saying. But there’s 2 things: primary trucks and secondary trucks.

Your primary? You drive that when you wanna have fun and can do it safely. Secondary? That’s what you drive when you enter risky territory.

Unfortunately, Cybertruck’s met with hatred/jealousy everywhere it goes, especially in big cities. While we shouldn’t have to worry about such things, some of us might be forced to drive something else or risk our trucks being vandalized.

I’ve spent a good part of the past week exploring other EV trucks as secondary options. If you’re offended by this, read the title and that first sentence again.

Here’s a brief comparison of the top trims of the EV trucks available today, starting with our beloved Cyberbeast. I’ll compare price, range, acceleration, top speed, horsepower, torque, towing/payload capacity, etc.

Let’s begin…
1. Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast
- $99,990
- 320 mi range (est)
- 2.6 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 845 horsepower
- 864 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity
- 2,500 lbs payload capacity
2. Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum
- $84,995
- 300 mi range (est)
- 4.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 110 mph top speed
- 580 horsepower
- 775 lb-ft torque
- 8,500 lbs towing capacity
3. Chevy Silverado EV First-Edition RST
- $96,495
- 440 mi range (est)
- 4.1 sec 0-60 mph
- 113 mph top speed
- 754 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
4. GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range
- $100,605
- 478 mi range (est)
- 4.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 760 horsepower
- 785 lb-ft torque
- 10,000 lbs towing capacity
5. GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck 3X
- $107,145
- 367 mi range (est)
- 3.0 sec 0-60 mph
- 112 mph top speed
- 1,000 horsepower
- 400 lb-ft torque
- 12,000 lbs towing capacity
6. Rivian R1T Quad
- $115,990
- 374 mi range (est)
- 2.5 sec 0-60 mph
- 130 mph top speed
- 1,025 horsepower
- 1,198 lb-ft torque
- 11,000 lbs towing capacity

Again, these are the top trims. Other trims get incrementally worse. Only thing close to Cyberbeast is the R1T. It seems that legacy automakers aren’t keeping up (shocker).

Rivian could be a decent option for a secondary truck, but, quite honestly, it would hurt spending that kind of money for a lesser truck when you could get a second Cyberbeast and write it up as a loss. Getting a second Cyberbeast would all but guarantee one would get damaged, but you’d have your good one for when it mattered. Getting a secondary truck would assure you have both trucks ready to roll for whatever situation comes up. Maybe when the Slate comes out, this will be more viable? Though I’d argue a Model Y is a far more capable vehicle for “truck stuff” than a Slate is. Slate is sad and pathetic.

Thanks Grok!

PS: I thought the Cyberbeast range is 301. At least mine is...

Model	Price	Range (est)	0-60 mph	Top Speed	Horsepower	Torque	Towing Capacity	Payload Capacity
Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast	$99,990	320 mi	2.6 sec	130 mph	845	864 lb-ft	11,000 lbs	2,500 lbs
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum	$84,995	300 mi	4.0 sec	110 mph	580	775 lb-ft	8,500 lbs	N/A
Chevy Silverado EV First-Edition RST	$96,495	440 mi	4.1 sec	113 mph	754	785 lb-ft	10,000 lbs	N/A
GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range	$100,605	478 mi	4.5 sec	112 mph	760	785 lb-ft	10,000 lbs	N/A
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck 3X	$107,145	367 mi	3.0 sec	112 mph	1,000	400 lb-ft	12,000 lbs	N/A
Rivian R1T Quad	$115,990	374 mi	2.5 sec	130 mph	1,025	1,198 lb-ft	11,000 lbs	N/A

 

[ABILISK]

Thanks Grok!

PS: I thought the Cyberbeast range is 301. At least mine is...

Model	Price	Range (est)	0-60 mph	Top Speed	Horsepower	Torque	Towing Capacity	Payload Capacity
Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast	$99,990	320 mi	2.6 sec	130 mph	845	864 lb-ft	11,000 lbs	2,500 lbs
Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum	$84,995	300 mi	4.0 sec	110 mph	580	775 lb-ft	8,500 lbs	N/A
Chevy Silverado EV First-Edition RST	$96,495	440 mi	4.1 sec	113 mph	754	785 lb-ft	10,000 lbs	N/A
GMC Sierra EV Denali Max Range	$100,605	478 mi	4.5 sec	112 mph	760	785 lb-ft	10,000 lbs	N/A
GMC Hummer EV Pickup Truck 3X	$107,145	367 mi	3.0 sec	112 mph	1,000	400 lb-ft	12,000 lbs	N/A
Rivian R1T Quad	$115,990	374 mi	2.5 sec	130 mph	1,025	1,198 lb-ft	11,000 lbs	N/A

Thanks for the handy table! Yeah, 301 with A/T tires, 320 with A/S

 

[koolio]

I'd be interested to know / see the payload capacity of all the other EV trucks you listed...there must be a reason why they don't make it publicly available.

Did a quick Google search for the GMC Denali EV truck: 1,500 / 1,350 pounds (Sierra EV / Extended Range). So, a lot less than the CT.

Like some others have said, the hate has died down a lot...all of the sheep who read and believe what legacy media tells them are focusing on whatever else they're being told. lol

 

[YDR37]

I'd be interested to know / see the payload capacity of all the other EV trucks you listed...there must be a reason why they don't make it publicly available.

The problem with payload is that it is dependent on the vehicle's curb weight, which changes with every single option. The exact payload capacity depends on the exact configuration from the factory, and so it's hard to define with a single number. That's why every car or truck has its own vehicle-specific payload sticker on the door jamb.

That said, I would bet that Cybertrucks do, on average, have higher numbers on their payload stickers than other EV trucks. But if you need a secondary truck for trips to big cities, is payload really an important consideration? If you are spending a long weekend in Manhattan, do you need to bring 1,000 lbs of cinderblocks with you?

 

[YDR37]

1. Tesla Cybertruck Cyberbeast

- 2,500 lbs payload capacity

That number is actually for the AWD, not the Cyberbeast. Payload changes with every option, like an extra motor or different tires. The specs in the Cybertruck Owner's Manual say:

Tri-Motor, All Terrain tires: 2,270 lbs. payload
Tri-Motor, All Season tires: 2,000 lbs. payload

Your Cyberbeast's payload sticker may or may not match those numbers, depending on the options you ordered. For example, if it came from the factory with the spare tire + tool kit, that could knock the vehicle-specific payload down by maybe 50 lbs.

 

[CyberGus]

Just buy a second Cybertruck as a beater ?‍

 

[txtravwill]

Also take into consideration there are some really big discounts on the Sierras, Bummers, Silverados right now on dealers lots etc. like 10k+ off.

 

[Friday]

Our second car is a model x and while it sounds crazy, when that thing is laid flat inside it’s functionally like a truck.

This right here. I am driving an X Plaid as a loaner, and, while I am dying without the steer-by-wire and CB better sound system, the X is an amazing vehicle for payload.

And so blandly externally designed that no one looks twice at it.

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