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I don't think it's comparable in that way to version 13. Version 13 did not have Phantom braking. However, I experienced a number of substantial improvements with version 14 on my first 15 minute round trip drive. If you don't want the software early, you can change the software setting. You can really have it on advanced. That's why you got it early.
I drove it a bit more yesterday and experienced some what looks mostly mapping issues. I hope these are not decision making issues. I think those should be overridden by the vision branch though, otherwise it felt great. Interventions always slightly disappointing

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Mad Max mode is brilliant on the freeway, and a tiny bit of an asshole too. I was laughing out loud quoting the The Nightrider yelling about ToeCutter during the trip. I used Sloth on surface streets because photoradar is a thing around here.
 

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Mad Max mode is brilliant on the freeway, and a tiny bit of an asshole too. I was laughing out loud quoting the The Nightrider yelling about ToeCutter during the trip. I used Sloth on surface streets because photoradar is a thing around here.
Talking about radars, I would love Tesla collected user data about these things and speed limits and errors similarly to Waze. It would be so much up to date.
 

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Getting some various levels of brake stabbing today at intersections. Was pretty smooth before. Guess it's having a bad day!
 
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I left on a road trip before it came through but fortunately I was able to download it at my Airbnb so now I have it to try out on this trip! So far I like it a lot. IDK if this would have also happened on v13 but I made a right turn at an intersection that had a stop sign that said 'left turn only' and my Beast continued on to the right without stopping. Pretty impressive. I didn't think I'd like all those driving modes but they actually make sense and I'm used to them already. It helps that I drive with the assistance of a radar detector/laser shifter.
 


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It is so much better now. I have probably driven 15,000 miles on cybertruck fsd since it was released. My daily commute is double american average and it has city streets, state highways and freeway driving. Unprotected lefts in 12 and 13 were pretty bad. Now they are great. Truck pulled over for emergency vehicles perfectly. It moved slightly away from some pedestrians that were moving closer to street side of the sidewalk. It handles neighborhood gates well. It backs out of my driveway and 3 point turns very well. It takes turns more naturally. It handles a railroad crossing with a stop light right after it on my commute much better than 13.

I thought at first I would dislike the drive modes but I now know I use chill in my neighborhood, standard in town and mad max on the freeway and it is nice to not have to roll the dial so much.

I had one small episode of brake stabbing when it was going around a car making a right turn. I also don't like how it uses the blinker in roundabouts but it is same problem as 13. It is still too early with the blinker so cars will think im exiting one exit too soon and try to pull out in front of me based on the flawed blinker. It's forward entry parking needs some work as well.

I live in a warm climate so falling leaves are not an issue so I cannot speak to leaf avoidance issues etc. Overall A+ upgrade.
 

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I had an instance of some construction pylons on right shoulder with some yellow hazard tape draped between them, one area was drooping in to travel lane and FSD Mad Max did a tiny shift to the left to stay away from the tape.
 

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Finally was able to drive today... And while it worked fine taking me to and from my sons appointment, I had a few issues i didn't like.

1. 2 yellow lights.... it tried to break at them when a little gas makes them easy, i pushed the pedal on both instances and it made it without even seeing red. They weren't even close to being a stop, they were more slam on your breaks.. its yellow.
2. Take off is jerky...

My profile is standard. Here in tampa, when you're going north on 41 and through US 54 the first lane is a turning lane into a cvs, the 2nd lane is straight and every fucker loves to turn into 7/11 after the light, like its an immediate right turn. So you avoid that lane at all costs. Well, no matter how many times i tried to force it to switch over a lane leading up to it, it would just turn the blinker off on me, which was annoying, like bro...I still know better than you, i drive this road 150x a year. Anyway, it didn't park at home, but that's fine because i gotta back into the small garage anyway.

I did notice at one point there was a slow down in the right lane (people turning into a business), and it switched over a lane for a split second, it either sensed someone might try to switch lanes at the last second or something, and then it immediately switched back to the center lane. i did save the clip to look at later, which im gonna do now and see if it saw something i didnt.
 

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The single worst part and bane of FSD is not the FSD part, it’s the craptacular navigation that leads FSD into garbage situations.

Lane navigation is pure garbage compared to apple car play.

Worse, after how many years, why do we not have the ability to create a “my route” to a place. Google Maps lets you plot a point and tap it to create additional waypoints to “rubberband” a custom route. Why can’t we at least do this to teach it better routes, and if enough people submit problems/custom routes, the entire system can learn.

Also how the hell do we not have the ability to submit, via voice ala CarPlay, things like traffic, potholes, hazards, and cops—grok report a speed trap, grok report a pothole in the right most lane, grok report a stopped car on the right shoulder, grok report heavy traffic, etc. The pothole feedback could be used to save everyone else on the system a lot of grief And help train the system to spot potholes better.

Bottom line is FSD is a pretty good driver, but it gets sent into idiot navigation boondoggles that even the best divers would fail under.

Tesla desperately needs to upgrade its crap quality navigation system as it’s holding back FSD by a lot. /rant
 

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I’m happy to report that my most common disengagement spot, a poorly lined double left turn lane near my house IS FIXED! It would cross from the right left turn lane into the left left turn lane in the middle of the intersection - but no more.
 


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The single worst part and bane of FSD is not the FSD part, it’s the craptacular navigation that leads FSD into garbage situations.

Lane navigation is pure garbage compared to apple car play.

Worse, after how many years, why do we not have the ability to create a “my route” to a place. Google Maps lets you plot a point and tap it to create additional waypoints to “rubberband” a custom route. Why can’t we at least do this to teach it better routes, and if enough people submit problems/custom routes, the entire system can learn.

Also how the hell do we not have the ability to submit, via voice ala CarPlay, things like traffic, potholes, hazards, and cops—grok report a speed trap, grok report a pothole in the right most lane, grok report a stopped car on the right shoulder, grok report heavy traffic, etc. The pothole feedback could be used to save everyone else on the system a lot of grief And help train the system to spot potholes better.

Bottom line is FSD is a pretty good driver, but it gets sent into idiot navigation boondoggles that even the best divers would fail under.

Tesla desperately needs to upgrade its crap quality navigation system as it’s holding back FSD by a lot. /rant
I wrote a patent application back around 2001 to do exactly that. I wonder who owns that patent now…I of course got nothing.
 

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Tried it in a short trip on standard and had to disengage a few times.

It kept trying to cross solid white line and was swerving left and right not knowing what to do with the blinkers On to the right. The right line is a buffer zone for cars to pull out of the parking space. Right is a wide parking lane about 1/4 mile for street parking only. It’s not a legal drivable lane (it is for a-holes to skip traffic and cut back to the left at the end though) I engaged and disengaged about 4 times here. It kept trying to go to the right lane. V13 never did this.

One other issue was light turned green. It went but slammed on the brake to a stop.

Today, I did the same trip again and it drove in the parking lane again after it swerved a couple of times not knowing if it should.

I drive on that street every day. I hope they fix that since before v14, it was fine there.
 

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Here are my thoughts. Basing them off my gripes about V13:

I always thought FSD 13 was too tame and too courteous. It felt like a machine driving. It would do things that were annoying (like camp the left lane while in Hurry mode). Overall, though, it was fine. Still very impressive.

FSD 14 seems more human to me. But it overreacts like a human. I've had it swerve twice, at high speed, over nothing. I believe it was freaking out over some non-standard marking on the pavement. Houston is full of that. It's also a little too aggressive now. It punches the accelerator. I feel like it is an improvement - but I monitor it much more carefully. So it is not as relaxing for me.

I think these gripes can be resolved with minor tweaks.
 

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I’m using FSD on every trip now. On two seemingly random turns (one left and one to the right) it made a sudden mid turn correction when usually it is very smooth. I’ve no idea what it “thinks” it sees, but it is a tiny bit unnerving. Other than that, I’m happy being driven around.
 

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I live on a hilly gravel road with tight curves tightly spaced. In sloth mode it can now get in and out of the neighborhood. Very nice.
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