Tragic Cybertruck Accident in SF Bay Area Kills 3, Injures 1

[REM]

This is what I’ve been saying. This is the first time in history where normal humans get easy access to a 500+HP vehicle. If someone owned a bmw m5 or Benz G wagon it was much less likely to see them crash due to them being very expensive and thus inaccessible to the majority of the public. Also, those that did own them were usually responsible, wealthy people. Nowadays …. a 600HP+ 2024 Model 3 performance, is the cost of a Toyota sedan. Even a Model y dual motor is up there with AMG suvs , yet the cost of a Rav4 . Having such accessible high horsepower vehicles in the hands of everyone is a recipe for many more fatalities to come. Couple this with underwhelming, brakes+suspension and narrow efficient tires makes it even worse.

Speaking of narrow efficient tires. If anybody is actually gonna off-road their cyber truck, you better pray to God, those thin 35x10” tires stick to the bead if you do any sort of aggressive off-roading. Coming from over two decades of off-road experience those tires are basically UTV tires, yet on a 6,500lb truck. Keep them inflated as much as you can to prevent bead failure! or buy bead locking wheels . Alternatively , go wider tires to seat them on the wheels more securely. That’s my PSA , don’t say I didn’t warn you.

I think most people make the mistake of overgeneralization. The CT is an amazing vehicle that can excel in a lot of categories. That doesn't make it a top contender in each of them, though.

Having said that, I don't know of a single production mass market truck that comes close to the stats across the board than the CT.

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[igs]

Heres another aspect of this case I think should be considered. With kids in control of this marvel of engineering the cybertruck. And that is that this vehicle feels so smooth at high speeds and does it so quietly and efficiently. One thing that combustion motors do while accelerating is also increase the sound and vibrations coming from the screaming engine and there is also a smell released from an accelerating engine and increased temperatures so that you're less likely to maintain the high speed for very long, unless you're really determined.
with the cybertruck you can easily get up to dangerous speeds quickly and not feel like you are driving dangerously fast if you don't realize it or not paying attention to your speed. You simply don't get the same amount or type of feedback as compared to gas powered cars. It takes a more experienced driver to avoid this pitfall. With cybertuck and other EVs it's a lot easier to overlook, ignore, get distracted or lose track of speed.
I mean besides the obvious visual feedback you get from both fuel types but that's all you get mostly. And nighttime forget about it it's worse because this feedback is much less efective. On the other hand with gas motors you are actually releasing a barrage of tiny explosions at increasing faster and more powerful levels. It's almost imposible to ignore the feedback. it opens your eyes and wakes you up tells you to pay attention!
I think you can see my point.

Speed Limit Mode
Speed Limit Mode allows you to limit acceleration and maximum driving speed to a chosen value between 50 and 120 mph (80 and 193 km/h). The first time you use this feature, you must create a 4-digit PIN that you must use to enable and disable Speed Limit Mode. When enabled and the driving speed approaches within approximately 3 mph (5 km/h) of the maximum speed, a chime sounds, the touchscreen displays a message, and Cybertruck sends a notification to the mobile app. You can also touch Security > Speed Limit Mode to enable from the Tesla mobile app. To enable Speed Limit Mode:

1. Ensure Cybertruck is in Park.
2. Touch Controls > Safety > Speed Limit Mode on the touchscreen.
3. Select the maximum driving speed.
4. Drag the slider to the On position.
5. Enter the 4-digit PIN that you want to use to enable and disable Speed Limit Mode.
   

 

[2000prerunner]

I think most people make the mistake of overgeneralization. The CT is an amazing vehicle that can excel in a lot of categories. That doesn't make it a top contender in each of them, though.

Having said that, I don't know of a single production mass market truck that comes close to the stats across the board than the CT.

Undisputed. I have 3 teslas so far. I’m just pointing out a real and not so talked about issue , that will have more consequences as more EVs get on the road . powerful cars in the hands of so many. It will bring a new meaning to reckless driving , road rage, fleeing from authorities and overall horsing around. For the first time ever , so many people getting their Tesla repo’ed might actually be able to pull the tow truck in the opposite direction when they’re being hooked up lol. If someone is not letting you merge, the majority of people will now be able to rocket past you at Corvette or Porsche speeds. Again, a first for humans. Many peasants with 500 hp. Not hard to understand there might be a downside.

 

[REM]

Undisputed. I have 3 teslas so far. I’m just pointing out a real and not so talked about issue , that will have more consequences as more EVs get on the road . powerful cars in the hands of so many. It will bring a new meaning to reckless driving , road rage, fleeing from authorities and overall horsing around. For the first time ever , so many people getting their Tesla repo’ed might actually be able to pull the tow truck in the opposite direction when they’re being hooked up lol. If someone is not letting you merge, the majority of people will now be able to rocket past you at Corvette or Porsche speeds. Again, a first for humans. Many peasants with 500 hp. Not hard to understand there might be a downside.

Luckily for us, we are less than 10 years away from a massive market crash for individual vehicle ownership after Tesla showcased "We Robot". I kept telling my friends and family that their little ones will never own a car, or probably even have a license to drive.

Parity is coming soon though. Hopefully faster than 10 years; the roadways is getting insanely dangerous.

 

[Zantosh76]

Very sad. The CT must have really been speeding along to sustain such damage. I say this because I really am shocked to see the tree trunk through the wheel well. But perhaps this is because of the designed crumple zone. No judgement meant at all, though it may sound like it, that kind of speed and that residential neighborhood just don’t mix - at any time. A lesson for us all.

I'll be honest with you, I really don't know what to think about cybertrucks and Teslas catching on fire. I've had three and I've loved them all and I don't drive crazy and that's just because I'm a little older and I've got kids and frankly my wife will yell at me, but I do like to go fast.

Now in light of these accidents and how tragic they are, it's so difficult to ascertain why it happened. Could it have happened in a gasoline car? Paul Walker died in a Porsche. So, these things happen regardless of the type of vehicle and yet it seems like Tesla's are put in the hands of very irresponsible people that do stupid things and end up having such tragic outcomes.

That's not to say this cannot happen to me, but, at the very least, I'm enjoying my vehicle for what it can be rather than trying to push it to its limits because I'm not getting paid to push it to its limits, I'm just getting paid to stay alive. So do you think these cars have some inherent technical issue that is ignored or is it just user error?

 

[Sandman1962]

I'll be honest with you, I really don't know what to think about cybertrucks and Teslas catching on fire. I've had three and I've loved them all and I don't drive crazy and that's just because I'm a little older and I've got kids and frankly my wife will yell at me, but I do like to go fast.

Now in light of these accidents and how tragic they are, it's so difficult to ascertain why it happened. Could it have happened in a gasoline car? Paul Walker died in a Porsche. So, these things happen regardless of the type of vehicle and yet it seems like Tesla's are put in the hands of very irresponsible people that do stupid things and end up having such tragic outcomes.

That's not to say this cannot happen to me, but, at the very least, I'm enjoying my vehicle for what it can be rather than trying to push it to its limits because I'm not getting paid to push it to its limits, I'm just getting paid to stay alive. So do you think these cars have some inherent technical issue that is ignored or is it just user error?

Me? My opinion is just that you can’t fight physics regardless of what type of vehicle.
Still I’m saddened by this. And would be sad if it happened with an ICE vehicle or a bicycle. I cannot imagine the family’s grief.
I am gonna go hug my grandson right now.

 

[Rockwell]

The SF Chronicle just couldn't resist posting this front page article in today's paper. There's no more real info about the crash itself, just an opportunity to bash Cybertrucks and Elon, and interviewing people who have nothing to do with the crash investigation.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...0ZGYwLThkMDItNzFlZTk5YmY1MjU2&sharecount=MA==

 

[rovert43]

I suspect what happened was a combination of these things.

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Alcohol.
Inexperience and safety features not enabled.
FSD enabled and sudden acceleration on a turn causing FSD to shut off and driver wasn't able to take control of the vehicle in time.

 

[Deleted member 17810]

Also, the runaway thermal fire from the battery pack.

 

[Cybertruck Tampa]

Also irresponsible parenting.

 

[pricedm]

I suspect what happened was a combination of these things.

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Alcohol.
Inexperience and safety features not enabled.
FSD enabled and sudden acceleration on a turn causing FSD to shut off and driver wasn't able to take control of the vehicle in time.

Alcohol. <- Likely
Inexperience and safety features not enabled. <- Likely
FSD enabled and sudden acceleration on a turn causing FSD to shut off and driver wasn't able to take control of the vehicle in time. <- Not the way FSD 12.x works. 100% no FSD was enabled. Happy to bet any amount of money on this.

 

[Cybertruck Tampa]

I suspect what happened was a combination of these things.

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Alcohol.
Inexperience and safety features not enabled.
FSD enabled and sudden acceleration on a turn causing FSD to shut off and driver wasn't able to take control of the vehicle in time.

so everytime a Tesla crashes it’s “likely “ FSD?

 

[Deleted member 17810]

so everytime a Tesla crashes it’s “likely “ FSD?

Apropos to nothing, There's a conversation to have about FSD's role in preventing accidents as well.

But that's a more broad debate as it comes into intervention.

 

[Crissa]

FSD enabled and sudden acceleration on a turn causing FSD to shut off and driver wasn't able to take control of the vehicle in time.

I doubt this is a thing, that would still be driver error.

FSD won't just bail on you. And even Autopilot crash statistics count collisions five seconds after it disables. That's enough time to come to a stop unless you're on an empty ice lake or something.

Also, the runaway thermal fire from the battery pack.

According to the fire department, the battery pack was not involved in the fire, hence getting it out in twenty minutes.

-Crissa

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