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LOL, Youtube experts have spent a lot of time telling me where my Jeep can't go. Also how the 5G chips in the vaccine are being used to track me while I do it.
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Correct, it does blow away the Jeep on the numbers like departure and entry angles, tipover, etc.
 

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Yes, exactly, different and a compromise, just like every single vehicle. The Rivian brings all of the worst compromises; length, low suspension, small tires, low angles. The CT is almost a foot longer than my Jeep, but with far more clearance.
 


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SwampNut is just thinking about how he’ll never have to worry about stranding his kids in waste deep water ever again.
 

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Hah, yeah, it’s a running joke with my friend. And they still trust me to take their kids out!
 

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I’ve loaded and unloaded small light objects over the side of my Tundra many times. As I mentioned above you can unload heavier objects over the side while standing inside the bed. Unloading firewood, shoveling dirt over the side, etc. Not only is it possible, it’s sometimes the preferable way to unload things which are up near the cab of the truck.
You are moving the goal posts. If standing inside the bed, of course you can throw stuff over the side to the ground. The Cybertruck is not going to stop you either. I don't know why you bring up your Toyota, I was referring to the F-150, Cybertruck's largest competitor by sales. It has VERY high bed sides in the 4x4 model (the one almost everyone gets). Then a lot of owners install lift kits to make them 2" higher. You can't get them with adjustable height suspension like every Cybertruck comes with and, even at 6'-04" I find it impractical to side load it (the F-150 4x4). That means standing on the ground, not inside the bed.

People who are making a big deal about the sail sides preventing side-loading don't understand how trucks are used. If it's an issue, then it's an issue the F-150 has as well. And it's the best selling pick-up in North America, which is Cybertrucks primary market. In other words, most truck buyers don't care about ease of side-loading because it's not something they typically do.
 


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I was a bit shocked when I saw a friend's "new" work issued Chevy, and how tall and "big" it seems. He went from around a 14-15 to a 19, and it just felt much taller and bigger. Not 4wd.

I have a Rubicon Gladiator so it has a factory "lift" and 33" tires. Reaching over the sides is not great, but because the bed sides are slimmer and lower than "real" trucks, it's possible. Yet almost never useful, other than to grab a bag that happens to be near the sides. I have a pull stick that is what I primarily use to gather anything from the front of the bed.
 

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You are moving the goal posts. If standing inside the bed, of course you can throw stuff over the
Go back and read the first post you replied to please.

Goalposts were not moved.

We were talking about the Rivian which has adjustable suspension you can lower, I mentioned it specifically in that first post. Also mentioned unloading over the sides.

I know it’s not a huge issue. Lots of things can be an issue without being a huge issue. It is one thing of many and obviously not a deal breaker for me.

Please read my original post again and reply to the points I made there rather than the assumptions you’ve made about it.
 
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You are moving the goal posts. If standing inside the bed, of course you can throw stuff over the side to the ground. The Cybertruck is not going to stop you either. I don't know why you bring up your Toyota, I was referring to the F-150, Cybertruck's largest competitor by sales. It has VERY high bed sides in the 4x4 model (the one almost everyone gets). Then a lot of owners install lift kits to make them 2" higher. You can't get them with adjustable height suspension like every Cybertruck comes with and, even at 6'-04" I find it impractical to side load it (the F-150 4x4). That means standing on the ground, not inside the bed.

People who are making a big deal about the sail sides preventing side-loading don't understand how trucks are used. If it's an issue, then it's an issue the F-150 has as well. And it's the best selling pick-up in North America, which is Cybertrucks primary market. In other words, most truck buyers don't care about ease of side-loading because it's not something they typically do.
See, this is great. Not being a truck dude I don't know this stuff. So CT haters say "it won't sell because you can't load over the side" and I'm like "well, shit maybe, but the only stuff I side load is dodgy apps on my android phone". I had noticed though when I'm standing next to a lot of trucks that it seems a long way up, so I always scratched my head and assumed truck owners are just of above average height but then they could likely reach over the CT sides too. Anyway, good to know.
 

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I always just slid things up from the back. Why climb in unless you're stacking, and if you're stacking, might as well already be in the bed.

The gear tunnel or wings kinda removes the need for all that, as does the load cover.

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There’s is the use case where people want a flat bed… that excludes both Rivian and Tesla… but that just illustrates that there’s plenty of room in the market. I can imagine however, someone is going to take to their Cybertruck with an angle grinder and make a flat bed.
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