Not TSLA but important development: Hyundai shuts down ICE R&D engine division

[Friday]

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202112230013#:~:text=Hyundai Motor Group, South Korea's,into an electric vehicle manufacturer.&text=The move came as the,EVs more rapidly than expected.

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[jerhenderson]

https://www.kedglobal.com/newsView/ked202112230013#:~:text=Hyundai Motor Group, South Korea's,into an electric vehicle manufacturer.&text=The move came as the,EVs more rapidly than expected.

GM is still wasting money on new ICE aren't they? Strange, for the EV leader.

 

[Zapharus]

GM is still wasting money on new ICE aren't they? Strange, for the EV leader.

I still can’t get over the fact that GM’s CEO really dared to call GM “the EV leader” ??‍?. The complete lack of self awareness and delusion is uncanny.

 

[Friday]

GM/Mary Barra is superseding Baghdad Bob as a reliable communicator.

I'm surprised there's not a meme yet.

 

[Crissa]

Plug-in Hybrids are still EVs, tho.

-Crissa

(But their fuel-efficiency numbers should assume no plugging)

 

[CyberGus]

John DeLorean wrote this book before he started his own company. He left GM because of the crazy politics. He also considered things like "model years" to be unethical, since it meant that new features and minor fixes were held back during the year. He was the maverick of the automobile industry before Elon made it cool.

It's a good read if you can find a copy.

 

[jerhenderson]

John DeLorean wrote this book before he started his own company. He left GM because of the crazy politics. He also considered things like "model years" to be unethical, since it meant that new features and minor fixes were held back during the year. He was the maverick of the automobile industry before Elon made it cool.

It's a good read if you can find a copy.

very ironic considering DeLorean was a crook in his own right.

 

[rr6013]

Plug-in Hybrids are still EVs, tho.

-Crissa

(But their fuel-efficiency numbers should assume no plugging)

You realize that calling a Hybrid an EV too, is like a proud miniture pony owner claiming that its a thoroughbred too! LOL

 

[Crissa]

You realize that calling a Hybrid an EV too, is like a proud miniture pony owner claiming that its a thoroughbred too! LOL

No?

Until we have a supply of charging stations and batteries range-extended EVs are a decent solution. The supply of BEVs added each year is 0.1% the number of cars registered in the US. We just need more. We shouldn't be selling non-hybrids at this point.

-Crissa

 

[CyberGus]

very ironic considering DeLorean was a crook in his own right.

John DeLorean was acquitted.

 

[Ogre]

I still can’t get over the fact that GM’s CEO really dared to call GM “the EV leader” ??‍?. The complete lack of self awareness and delusion is uncanny.

It was an autocorrect mistake.

The speach-writter original wrote "EVIL leader".

 

[Sirfun]

No?

Until we have a supply of charging stations and batteries range-extended EVs are a decent solution. The supply of BEVs added each year is 0.1% the number of cars registered in the US. We just need more. We shouldn't be selling non-hybrids at this point.

-Crissa

Good Point, but I would like to adjust it just a bit. Smart people should think about buying only hybrids or EV's at this point. Hybrids at least use momentum as your friend to acquire free fuel. Every time you let off the throttle, or touch the brakes, they are pumping energy into the battery to be used as free fuel. Non hybrids waste all that momentum and use up the friction brakes to slow down/stop.
I have a PHEV Pacifica, and near our home there is a steep grade. As soon as the average drivers crest the top and start down the grade, you see all the brake lights come on. All the way down the grade, people are constantly applying the brakes to hold back their vehicle's speed. With a hybrid, you won't use any friction braking and be pumping energy back into the battery. Recently when I took a drive to L.A. I was amazed that when starting out with the battery empty, our Pacifica still re-generated enough fuel to drive 30% of the drive. It averaged 31mpg in a minivan! If there was a viable option (think CT) I would have bought an EV but at this time our world is in transition.

 

[John K]

Eventually, someone will develop rented camel backs, battery extenders where you drive and swap out through your travel. Not enough batteries to contemplate yet.

Think along the lines as swapping out propane tanks instead of filling your tank.

 

[Ogre]

Good Point, but I would like to adjust it just a bit. Smart people should think about buying only hybrids or EV's at this point. Hybrids at least use momentum as your friend to acquire free fuel. Every time you let off the throttle, or touch the brakes, they are pumping energy into the battery to be used as free fuel. Non hybrids waste all that momentum and use up the friction brakes to slow down/stop.
I have a PHEV Pacifica, and near our home there is a steep grade. As soon as the average drivers crest the top and start down the grade, you see all the brake lights come on. All the way down the grade, people are constantly applying the brakes to hold back their vehicle's speed. With a hybrid, you won't use any friction braking and be pumping energy back into the battery. Recently when I took a drive to L.A. I was amazed that when starting out with the battery empty, our Pacifica still re-generated enough fuel to drive 30% of the drive. It averaged 31mpg in a minivan! If there was a viable option (think CT) I would have bought an EV but at this time our world is in transition.

My 9 year old non-hybrid Subaru Outback gets 32 MPG on the highway.

This is why I get so frustrated with PHEVs. They basically reverse much of the ba

Eventually, someone will develop rented camel backs, battery extenders where you drive and swap out through your travel. Not enough batteries to contemplate yet.

Think along the lines as swapping out propane tanks instead of filling your tank.

interesting thought.

The big vault under the bed would be ideal for a reserve/ swappable battery. Tough part isinserting it and removing it.

 

[John K]

I imagine the semis will benefit first and be more lucrative to have large camelbacks clip on between trailer and semi adding long haul range with easy swap while charging.

A lot of technical details to address. The camelback could also run the refrigeration when needed.

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