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  1. New Rivian configurations, lower prices

    Another possible factor is that Rivian is gearing up for their second-generation products (to be called, not suprisingly, the R2S and R2T). The formal announcement is scheduled for March 7, though I wouldn't expect the new models to be available for purchase until late 2025 at the earliest...
  2. Scratch and Sniff - Cybertruck Show & Tell From Hands-On Seat Time in Showroom

    I can see a payload sticker near the right edge of this pic, attached to. the driver's door jamb. If you happen to go back, it would be nice to get a picture of that. Don't think anyone has posted a Cybertruck payload sticker yet.
  3. Affordability

    The Cybertruck may well find a similar "very nice niche", as a luxury product for wealthy consumers. But even if it does, it will be a disappointment given the hopes and expectations for a mass-market product that an average consumer could afford. For example, the following statement, made by...
  4. Load testing: 2,500 lbs loaded into Cybertruck bed. Auto-leveling in action

    2019 Cybertruck, as announced: weight of an F-150, payload of an F-250 2023 Cybertruck, as delivered: weight of an F-250, payload of an F-150
  5. Why isn’t the Cybertruck on the Tesla trip planner yet?

    The discussions here about the Tesla Trip Planner tend to run at cross purposes, because people have different understandings of what it is actually for. As indicated in the preceding quote, some people assume that Tesla provides the Trip Planner as a service to the owners of Tesla vehicles...
  6. Why isn’t the Cybertruck on the Tesla trip planner yet?

    This question came up in a another recent thread. It's true that Tesla's official online Trip Planner has stjll not been updated for the Cybertruck. And probably no one outside of Tesla knows the reason for sure. But it seems like there are only two general possibilities, both of which were...
  7. Delivered Cybertruck! Central Valley, CA -- Any Questions or Requests?

    Does it have payload / tire / axle loading stickers on the driver's door pillar? If so, could you photograph and post? Thanks
  8. 10,000+ Miles Driving a Cybertruck – Things learned: range, great sound and full love/hate list after 10k miles

    Those approximations may be valid. But they don't answer the original question. The original question was not: "How can the official Tesla route planner be used to approximate the performance of the Cybertruck?" The original question was: "why hasn't Tesla updated its Trip Planner for CT?"...
  9. 10,000+ Miles Driving a Cybertruck – Things learned: range, great sound and full love/hate list after 10k miles

    It's a fair question. One possible answer: Tesla doesn't want curious potential Cybertruck customers to plot road trips, because then they might be disappointed by the number of stops and the associated charging times. Tesla clearly has the necessary data, because they provide a Cybertruck...
  10. 10,000+ Miles Driving a Cybertruck – Things learned: range, great sound and full love/hate list after 10k miles

    That may not be an accurate characterization of the situation. According to the recently published Elon Musk biography, Tesla engineers made it clear to the "emperor" that there were issues with the Cybertruck. In fact, the engineers were so concerned that they started developing "a secret...
  11. Tesla's First Dud: State of Charge x Kyle Conner (Out of spec) talks Cybertruck vs. Lightning & Rivian R1T

    Coincidentally, Elon had the following thoughts on Tesla truck pricing back in June 2019: Well, according to the CPI Inflation Calculator, it just so happens that $49k in June 2019 is equivalent to $59k today. Of course, you can't get a Cybertruck AWD today for $59k. But it certainly seems...
  12. Tesla's First Dud: State of Charge x Kyle Conner (Out of spec) talks Cybertruck vs. Lightning & Rivian R1T

    Way too early to categorize the Cybertruck as a "dud". But you have to wonder if it will turn out to be the right strategic move. When Tesla announced that they were developing a pickup, it was widely assumed that this meant something like "a Model Y with a bed", plus maybe some suspension...
  13. Taking the CYBERTRUCK on a MASSIVE ROADTRIP | Charging was TOUGH

    The guy who owns the truck finally compiled the final numbers here. Assuming a highway driving speed of 70 mph, the trip would take about 19 hours non-stop. If the trip actually took 27 hours, then that implies about 8 hours of charging time total. If there were 12 stops, then that implies...
  14. Range Extender in the bed - no capacity left 🤷‍♂️

    My post had it wrong, sorry about the confusion. The image from the Owner's Manual was missing some key info. I previously acknowledged the error in Post #14 in this thread. The bed capacity of a Cybertruck is 919 to 1,310 lb, if the passenger capacity is maxed out. The maximum passenger...
  15. Is a Cybervan the best EV hauling option?

    The Cybertruck gets all the hype, but In the long run, the new Rivian commercial vans may prove to be a much more significant milestone in the evolution of the electric truck. The Rivian vans look dorky, not cool or futuristic. They won't stop a bullet. They won't beat a Porsche at the drag...
  16. Calculate how much Payload your CyberTruck can carry. It's not 2,500lbs.

    The Cybertruck announced in 2019 was a 3/4-ton alternative. It had the curb weight of an F-150, combined with the payload of an F-250. Unfortunately, Tesla did not deliver the 2019 Cybertruck. The 2024 Cybertruck has the curb weight of an F-250, combined with the payload of an F-150.
  17. Range Extender in the bed - no capacity left 🤷‍♂️

    So the Cybertruck’s announced payload of 3,500 lbs (for all configurations) in 2019 became the real-world payload of 2,000 to 2,500 lbs (depending on configuration) in 2023. This may raise the question: how exactly was the payload reduced? Did Tesla artificially de-rate the original payload...
  18. Calculate how much Payload your CyberTruck can carry. It's not 2,500lbs.

    The "real-world" payloads of half-ton trucks, as shown on the payload sticker on the door jamb, are typically lower than the advertised payloads. The advertised numbers are commonly based on trucks with the absolute minimum of options and therefore the lowest curb weights -- which are not the...
  19. Calculate how much Payload your CyberTruck can carry. It's not 2,500lbs.

    Your points are valid, but they would also apply to the ICE half-ton competition (F-150, Chevy 1500, Tundra, etc.). In fact, most half-tons probably have real payloads in the 1,400 to 1,800 lb range -- significantly lower than a Cybertruck (without a range extender), so the limitations would be...
  20. Range Extender in the bed - no capacity left 🤷‍♂️

    A CT with a 6,800 lb curb weight and 3,500 lb payload would be into Class 3 even without adding extra batteries natively. I agree that Tesla does not want this. I agree. We can assume that Tesla was aware of the 10,000 lb Class 3 threshold in 2019. So by announcing a 3,500 lb payload for the...


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