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  1. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    Well, it was a pun...your interpretation and his reaching over the side of the truck. To me that is not a video of a person who would have an easy time lifting something over the side or reaching for something inside. But we just disagree on how it appears so that's what it is. Additionally...
  2. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    I think that’s a “stretch.” In any case, I’m going to agree with Sandy’s assessment - no contractors are going to be buying the Cybertruck and the Cybertruck is more of a hybrid sport utility/truck. But we’ll see when deliveries start.
  3. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    In these clips from that video, you can see that Jay Leno can just rest his arm at shoulder height at the very back of the Cybertruck. In the next instant Franz starts to open the vault and in the wider shot you can see by the clearance that the truck has probably already been lowered to its...
  4. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    The problem is what is shoulder height for most people. I'm 6'1" so I'm ok lifting heavy objects over a 4'5" wall and dropping them on the other side. Change that even by 4" and now I'm lifting uphill to put something in the bed. If it slopes you still have to lift over the high end. The CT...
  5. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    Sure...It's a '96 F-250. The top of the sides are about 4 1/2 feet off the ground and the floor of the bed is about 34" off the ground...almost counter height. I estimate the midpoint of the CT's sail pillar is going to be at least 5 1/2 feet off the ground...still possible to swing something...
  6. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    Sandy has spoken a little more on this: Basically, he doesn't think of the Cybertruck as a "truck" and that they aren't really comparable: “The Cybertruck I don’t think is made for contractors…that would be like buying an SUV and calling it your truck." “The F-150, the Lightning, that’s for...
  7. CoyoteJim

    610 miles of range for Cybertruck - is it for real?

    I need to make a correction - in using the Model X as a surrogate for the CT I forgot to factor in the efficiency penalty that the CT would have over the Model X due to the difference in cd values. The Model X has a cd of .24 and the CT should have a cd of .30 (per Elon’s tweet). I don’t have a...
  8. CoyoteJim

    610 miles of range for Cybertruck - is it for real?

    Well, I was referring more to when it is used as a point of refutation in a discussion - just gets really tiresome to wade through. A person may be absolutely correct about my poor career choice or my many character flaws, but they [probably] aren't really relevant to the data presented or...
  9. CoyoteJim

    610 miles of range for Cybertruck - is it for real?

    We all have seen the patent UI mock-ups - 610 miles of range! Shocking, surprising? Even unbelievable? Just a random number in a mockup? How does the CT get there in a package that weighs the same (or less) than a Ford ICE F-150 and cost $70k (or less)? Elon had stated in the reveal that they...
  10. CoyoteJim

    Tonneau with a side of wings?

    Turn those reflectors into collectors to power some Stirling engines...
  11. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    "Ford's F-150 Lightning Pro comes with a $50,000 extended range option For commercial fleet customers only." https://www.engadget.com/ford-f-150-lightning-pro-electric-pickup-100041871.html
  12. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    Quotes by Sandy from the video: "...these innovations [referring to LG's pouch cells] are the right way to go." "...from some of the pictures, it looks to me like they've done a good job. It'll probably be a closer competitor to Tesla on how they've done battery management than some of the...
  13. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    The 4680 cells in the CT will be stellar; Sandy Munro did praise the pouch cells in the Lightning, however.
  14. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    I have a res for the CT DM. If only Ford has an ev tax credit I would consider the XLT ER if the real range is 400+ miles as is now being reported, but would probably stick with the CT for the reasons you list. If CT is going to qualify for a $10k tax credit I'm no longer considering the Ford...
  15. CoyoteJim

    For retail customers, the lowest priced full-size pickup truck with 300mi range, Ford F-150 Lightning Pro ER or Tesla Cybertruck?

    Yes that “fleet only” restriction on the Pro ER is really annoying. The big factor here is the ev tax credit. As it stands, you can subtract $7500 for each of the Ford trim levels (except the highest). However, the ev tax plan that just passed through the Senate would allow you to subtract...
  16. CoyoteJim

    Tesla Boats/Watercraft?

    From their website: “in general, due to electric propulsion, the Q2 can be driven on lakes, rivers, seas and marine protected areas, whereas the minimum water depth must be above 1m (3.3ft)…as long as the height of the waves does not exceed 0.5 m (1.76ft).” I suppose you would want to keep a...
  17. CoyoteJim

    Tesla Boats/Watercraft?

    It seems that the solution here is to reduce drag by developing electric hydrofoils rather than traditional hulls. There are a couple of companies making multi passenger electric hydrofoils but at a price above $200k as you mentioned. However, Quadrofoil makes cool two seater hydrofoils that...
  18. CoyoteJim

    Tonneau with a side of wings?

    That’s a good point; it may not be that useful if you park in a lot much of the time. Even street parking, probably couldn’t be deployed.
  19. CoyoteJim

    Tonneau with a side of wings?

    Aside from the load of patent info dumped recently where solar for the tonneau was detailed, Elon has also mentioned some accessory solar “wings” that could be added for a total of 30-40 miles of range per day. Most likely would these wings fold out from the sail pillars? Would you give up...


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