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Don't be so excited, you will get it when Elon decides you are ready for it. You know how long it took to get the Cybertruck in the first place. 😂

Not if you count the Foundation Series extras. As an example, the range extender is priced at $16K. How much extra range is worthwhile at what price, weight and space penalty?

The costs are more than just the price of the batteries. And that's not even remarkably cheap. We were promised under $100/kWh a decade ago. Though you would pay more for an already expensive vehicle you also pay in weight, size, efficiency and cargo capacity.

At what cost? 😏

No, I never said they didn't, at least until they learned the tradeoffs. There has been argument on how much more they want and how much they really need it. I initially reserved the tri-motor that promised 500 miles. When it turned out the AWD was going to have more range and cost even more...

It was an approximation because we've been speaking in generalities about how much more range we should be given. Most claims were that we need 400 EPA miles because "real world" range wasn't sufficient for multiple folks' different special use cases. That really gets into the weeds since there...

So, what are you arguing about, supporting those who want it Right Now? 😆

Since we were talking about 300 vs 400 miles on Y or Cybertruck, not any specific configurations, that is 33% more, so 33% more battery, 33% more weight.

So, worst case is that occasionally you might want to stop and charge up for a few extra miles rather than drive slower. For that, you, not 99% of people, would have Tesla use a larger battery, with the negatives it would entail. With every model Tesla designers consider the optimal...

And they've promised a range extender for the Cybertruck, so buy an S or range extender, problem solved. All the folks are complaining then only about "up to" 65 miles difference, right? 😆

You only need enough driving-back range to get to the handiest DC charger, or even just a Level 2 for enough boost to get to that DC charger.

Of course, it's more important on an EV where weight and efficiency are crucial, but ICE vehicles have steadily gone more electric with pumps, motors and accessories, and everything is becoming computer dependent. The 48V weight, cost of materials and production line advantages would benefit...

I suppose you used a Model 3 which already can get to 344 miles when we have been talking about Y and Cybertruck to try to make a point, but why not just go with the S that already has 405 miles? 😏 When mixing in various models, your mileage may vary. The complaint here though has been that...

I think because someone in China decided it was a crucial competitive feature for the Chinese market and Elon isn't willing to try to bully them into accepting things the way he thinks is good for them like he does here. It's still possible the Y produced here might not have them and might even...

For the Cybertruck I wouldn't disagree, but 12V has been inhibiting what is practical to add to vehicles generally for some time. The wiring has become a huge and costly mess, yet technology and the competition for features has kept loading ever more demands upon it.

Tesla is still grossly milking the price of Powerwalls. They are batteries, electronics and software. At scale, software and electronics costs are dirt cheap. At estimated battery costs, the 12kWh or so in a Powerwall is no more than 10-15% of what they are selling for.

That would be a pretty fat passenger at almost 400lbs. For the Cybertruck that would be well over 500lbs. 😄

When a system gets too far from optimum it is broken.

12V has been broke for a long time.

I really like the indirect taillight bar. I think it's nice break from all the common tricks of hiding the lightbulbs behind plastic.