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  1. A new U.S. based giga factory just for Cybertruck

    The steel plant is about 100 miles from Austin and as others have said there's room for additional buildings if Tesla runs out of room making the Model Y, CT and Model 2, Semi, robot, etc. The only thing stopping Tesla from building more would be a revolt by the UAW and auto dealers who both...
  2. Rivian Starts shipping to Customer

    So what's with their website? I went to the configurator, made some changes but the delivery date never changed from January 2022. Is that when their backlog ends? From one of the photos it looks like there's a lineup of trucks. Has anyone seen any NHTSA crash test information yet? I would...
  3. Tesla sidesteps New Mexico ban by building service center in tribal land

    https://www.indianaffairs.gov/regional-offices/southern-plains Texas falls under this region. Looks like only two tribes in Texas are included in this region. Southern Plains Regional Office: Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma Alabama Coushatta Tribe of Texas Citizen Potawatomi Nation (??) Iowa...
  4. Tesla sidesteps New Mexico ban by building service center in tribal land

    Found this FTC article, https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-supply-chain/manufacturer-imposed. Shows how stupid government thinks people are and how huge automobile manufacturer lobbyists are. "Reasonable price, territory, and customer restrictions...
  5. Will there be a destination charge on Factory pick-ups?

    They push a few buttons, enter your name and stuff and everything is taken care of electronically, including sending info to your DMV and/or Dept of Licensing (WA has separate places for each of these). I've bought many cars and most of this paperwork is worthless garbage, boilerplate junk. Of...
  6. Update from Elon: Cybertruck production starting late 2022 and volume production in 2023

    Friends live in and around Arnold, CA, elevation 4000-ft on Hwy 4 on the way up to the higher elevations of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. Over the last 10 years, PG&E (yes the forest burners) have been actively clearing dead pine trees. I believe this was caused by beetles probably looking...
  7. Rivian is targeting Texas for second truck factory

    Lived in Fullerton for 6 years when there were still orange groves and couldn't breath because of the smog. There isn't any room to build in southern California that wouldn't need an environmental impact study and cleanup before building there. Yes, there's lots of empty land across the state...
  8. Rivian is targeting Texas for second truck factory

    What is Texas' minimum wage? It's interesting they're demanding a minimum wage of $56K for every(?) worker. These are factory workers that do the few things robots can't do. Will they hire cleanup crew and cafeteria staff as part time so they can pay them much less? Texas isn't a state that pays...
  9. Let’s Put a Moratorium on Cybertruck News Until Tesla Actually Builds It

    Ford crew cab, different naming, so is that two rows of full seats or the half-size, facing back seats? I'll try and find one. update: Found Ford F-150 XLT, looks like shorter bed. Scaled to a 2020 F-150 SuperCrew, 5.5-ft Styleside, 231.9" long but height is a couple inches taller than spec--so...
  10. Let’s Put a Moratorium on Cybertruck News Until Tesla Actually Builds It

    Having fun today cleaning up my shop so I took a break to validate the size comparison. I took the outlines I bought, scaled them to get close to actual, documented size, then combined them in a chart plus a comparison of the Model 3 and Cybertruck. I'm too old to learn CAD or shading...
  11. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    I'm an in between driver. I needed something more powerful than a 2000 4Runner to pull the ultralight trailer I bought (since sold) so I got a 2013 Tacoma double cab. It worked better but still sucked pulling a 2600 lb load (trailer and stuff in it). I've since downsized to a rooftop tent and...
  12. What about a Three seater?

    My drawing is of a single front seat with the full 6.5-ft bed. No removable back seat. Three seats up front or two bucket seats with large console. Extending it upwards for 16" would make it totally unstable. Supposedly the $25K Tesla Model 2(?) would have a hatchback but my reduced size CT has...
  13. What about a Three seater?

    How's this look? Tires/Wheels reduced to 90% of original, top section squeezed down some so overall height is ~5'6". Six foot bald guy standing next to it for size comparison. Still has same length bed and driver's compartment. Looks like a min-CT to me. Good for road and light off-road use. Air...
  14. What about a Three seater?

    Took 40-in, essentially the back door, out of the CT. Here's a 2D drawing of it with roof lines adjusted. I'm not sure it would be stable unless the height was also lowered.
  15. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    Fun story of the day. Hyundai announce a ripped open crossover and is calling it a truck. The 2022 Santa Cruz is 196" long, 75" wide (about same width as my Tacoma) with a 4.5-ft bed. Getting only 23mpg I wonder how they can even release it. 3500 lb towing. Now this is a small truck! I'd be a...
  16. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    Found this website, https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/corporate-average-fuel-economy and it's typical government double-speak. Tried to find definitions of a light-truck, which might not mean what we think it does. Somewhere in all the definitions, I think the trucks we're talking about are...
  17. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    I presume you're commenting on my comment. What determines a majority to be vast? 2x, 3x, 10x? Maybe just one more than the other. Double the number of sales isn't really vast unless you're talking about large numbers, like 2M vs 1M. Ford sells more that's true but not as much more as people...
  18. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    Yes, Ford sells 2.5x more F-series trucks than Toyota sells Tacomas. Not my website so not sure why they weren't included in the first chart. Keep scrolling down and you'll find RAM trucks. Ford must not be listing model types because F-150 isn't found, only F-series on entire page. Tundra sales...
  19. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    Not exactly sure where the end of each truck is on your drawing so my scaling of your photo might be a bit off. F-150 and CT are same length, CT a tiny bit shorter but that is variable depending on airshocks. Tacoma same length (my 2013) as the Ranger (not sure what year your truck are), F-250...
  20. Perhaps they could produce a smaller Cybertruck, given how well the truck is accepted

    Check out current vehicle sales, https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2021-us-vehicle-sales-figures-by-model/. Ford F-series have dropped from last month although they retained #1 in overall sales. Tacoma is 7th (four Toyotas in top seven). Are Ford buyers waiting for the Lightning or just not buying...
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