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  1. WildhavenMI

    Will you be trading/re-selling your current Tesla for the Cybertruck?

    The X was a "trade up" from our 2018 Pacifica Hybrid. We were being offerd more than we paid for the hybrid by Tesla, and the X was used and a great price. Even with the recent depreciation hits, my black book value vs purchase price is still nearly break even. And since I drove the minivan, I...
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    Will you be trading/re-selling your current Tesla for the Cybertruck?

    Just watched - incredible that even up against a Prius the economics still favor the M3 in the short term.
  3. WildhavenMI

    Will you be trading/re-selling your current Tesla for the Cybertruck?

    I 100% agree with you. Electric cars are one of the easiest decisions to make when you think about it from an economic standpoint. This is particularly true if you live in an area with cheap electricity, or if you have the means to produce your own electricity via solar. What used to be $6,000...
  4. WildhavenMI

    Will you be trading/re-selling your current Tesla for the Cybertruck?

    Baller here, but my wife says I'm actually not. Who you gonna believe. :cool: This is my plan of action: 1) Convince my wife to trade in her Bolt, take my Model X, and then add the CT as our second car. 2) When that fails, trade in the Model X (assuming I can get ~$65k for it or so). 3) If I...
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    Tesla patents new windshield glass capable of novel bends, shapes and curves using Cybertruck as example

    I can't imagine. It was $1,200 to have my side window replaced in my X. I hear those windshields are north of $2k. I have experience with a variety of devices made of "sapphire glass" and while strong, there are def day-to-day experiences that can crack it. Scratches not so much, but the...
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    Arcimoto shuts down factory, stock plunges as it warns of bankruptcy

    TBH, I didn't know Arcimoto started deliveries - and I literally have a google calendar where I track these things (specific dates for EV reveals/releases/first deliveries/etc.). I looked at these like 2 years ago and assumed that it'd either never get to market but if it did it'd be 2 years of...
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    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    They don't need the financial incentive, nor do I honestly believe a financial incentive of that size would be sufficient to encourage a switch to EV/PHEV amongst that group if they're not already thinking that way. Granted, this is opinion, and I'm always open to be changed by facts, but IMO...
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    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    Why on Earth do we need to incentivise those in the top 10%? I ask, as a member of that group, why I should be getting gov money for something I can already afford.
  9. WildhavenMI

    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    Yeah, which tbh is about where a vehicle that size and with those capabilities should be. Lets not forget that just 4 years ago that every non-luxury OEM compact base model was under $20k. Average new car prices are absolutely bonkers since 2020, and a lot of people seem to have become...
  10. WildhavenMI

    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    Agree - the X is a luxury car, and def a "fancy vehicle", and IMO should not qualify for the credit. We're on the same page there. I differ from most of this thread in that I could care less about the capacity/space/weight requirements, and think it's all about the price. Unless you're making...
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    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    I traded in my minivan (Pacifica Hybrid) for an X, mostly because I no longer wanted any vehicles that used gas. I lost cargo space, but I gained significant towing capabilities and because I am able to pull a loaded box trailer with it I was also able to dump the old truck I kept around for...
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    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    I get it, but also...I feel a little "get over it" about it. Do what every other OEM does and create a down-market version with a "cheap trim" badge that minimizes the depreciation on the other models. EDIT: This, from the guy who: 1) Bought perhaps the most overpriced vehicle ever made (but I...
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    Elon wants your help! IRS invites consumers to comment on EV tax credit qualifications

    What a complicated thing. I feel for the people responsible for coming up with the rules. The incentives here should be designed to maximize net impact. The fact of the matter is that there's no pile of unsold EVs sitting around waiting for a price reduction, but there are people who are priced...
  14. WildhavenMI

    Model 3 Pricing Versus Average Car Price (And Cybertruck vs Truck)

    It is important to note that the data Bloomberg uses is average vehicle price, not average car price. That number is inclusive of the 80% of new vehicles sold in the US that are already SUVs and trucks. The data identified in the source is "Edmunds and Bloomberg intelligence." The...
  15. WildhavenMI

    Cold Weather Charging: what really happened with MS not charging?

    The quote from the Electrek article sums it up best, I think: "Man's car breaks down; Details at 11."
  16. WildhavenMI

    Signs of a slowdown in EV sales?

    Show me the unsold EVs sitting on lots and I'll believe it. Are sales of $60k+ EVs declining - maybe. But the lower market passenger cars (not just EVs) are up 25% YoY.
  17. WildhavenMI

    Bought TSLA stock today

    I admittedly pulled that number from a quick visit to the etrade report tab, not realizing I was seeing a 2021 number. Original post ammended, but that's still a large P/E for me for the type of scale limitations Tesla will face in getting larger. Optimus may fix their anticipated labor...
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    Bought TSLA stock today

    While I took the opp to buy a couple (literally 2) more shares, it is just still so insanely overvalued to me. The stock is valued like a software growth company, but Elon himself says Tesla is a manufacturing company. They are leading in that regard for sure. But 70x 29x?
  19. WildhavenMI

    Will you use Cybertruck as a daily driver? What are you trading in?

    Hopefully (if they give me a good value) trading in a 2018 Model X 100D with ~75k miles on it. I LOVE the X, and while I think I'll love the CT more, I'm not unhappy with what I have. Just means I'll buy a better enclosed trailer with the saved money.
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