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But it's his right and he doesn't care. He said previously that he's only going to live once and he wants to live it his way. If it ever got to the point where he was hurting Tesla more than helping, the board will remove him. That's not the case. He understands actions have consequences...

It's crazy, we got spoiled. My home is less than 3% and both of my Teslas are under 1.25%.

I think people are underestimating your interest rate point. It's going to take a ton of buyers off the table if rates are 7%, especially with any price increases and low value on trade-ins (especially on Teslas).

Wouldn't 3750 in a week be considered "mass production"? Musk has said twice that I know of that mass production won't begin until sometime in 2024. Also "There will be an S curve of production," . "So it'll be slow at first and then ramping up and I guess we'll see what the demand is like. I...

For 600 miles Tesla would need well over 200kwh of battery in the CT. I think that's unrealistic, but if it did happen, it would be expensive.

To add to this, the car itself isn't capable of learning. All machine-learning is done centrally and then push to the car.

Those pre-orders mean very little. It's $100 refundable based on pricing that Elon already said wouldn't be the same. If the price is much higher, range/performance/towing much lower, etc than they planned it could result in Model S/X-like demand until they get things figured out.

That's what created this discussion. Elon's statement of difficulties making it affordable, his questioning on demand, and that he said it will be relatively small in the grand scheme of things for Tesla, which is a massive departure from his previous statements.

From what I read they only have to provide the sales price (what I read could be wrong) as it's stated that non-software accessories will add to the total and can take it over that threshold, but the fact there's cars on there not coming out until next year seems relevant. Maybe it's nothing...

Then followed it with "probably".

As Elon alluded to yesterday, they don't know what the demand of the CT is. They do have massive demand for the MY and that's been one of the biggest reasons (outside of figuring out how to make the CT) for the delays. The ramp time will be slow. He's said that like 10 times now, because it...

Tesla had no clue how much it would cost to make the truck at the time, but no I think the biggest thing will be issues with the 4680s, the 4 motor, rear-wheel steering, and other additions that were not planned when the "pricing" was listed. Elon didn't indicate that he has confidence in...

Trading in vehicles to make money is terrible advice in this economy. That was pandemic level stuff.

Those weren't real prices. You are comparing them to real, actual prices. They were promotional and it even stated in the contract that they were subject to change. Plus the 4 motor, Plaid, with rear-wheel steering wasn't even offered. I'm willing to make a wager that the starting price is...

You didn't watch yesterday, did you?

Elon already said, "The specs and pricing will be different" last year. Adding to his statement about difficult to make the cost affordable and questioning demand/ saying it will be small in the grand scheme of things is all vagueness that adds to speculation. Not lying, just overly...

I definitely think there will be a price shock or maybe a huge range reduction, otherwise why would Elon change his stance from the CT having a crazy high demand and changing the truck market to "It depends on demand, it will be small in the grand scheme of things".

Incredibly low chance at 40k CTs in 2023. That would be an insane ramp, the MY in Austin just hit 5k per week a few weeks ago. I've seen estimates from a few hundred to a few thousand, but no one knows. They aren't going to start mass production until 2024, so that tells me no to 40k this year.

I seriously doubt the dual motor would be or they'd never get to 250k per year.

I believe the initial launch will to be over $80k because of competitive pricing (Ford, Rivian) and the fact that Tesla didn't submit the CT to the IRS to qualify for tax breaks this year or next year, but that doesn't mean there won't be a lower cost version released. Will that make you...