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I'm a minimalist when it comes to fancy options, but I'm all for smart things that increase range. So I'm now advocating for the Heat Belt! https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a42419607/zf-heat-belt-heated-seatbelt

I've been there. Spent 15 months in Woomera, played baseball in Port Pirie, and spent a ton of time in Adelaide. Even watched the Crows repeat (I think in 99') as Champs. Pretty sure I still have a Crows beer can somewhere in my boxes of memorabilia.

I'm glad we are mostly all in agreement this was the worst reveal ever for an EV. No price, no range, stupid suicide doors, no post reveal reservation option and he called it a concept. And I was pulling for them dammit!! It was an epic fail on almost every notable front when it comes to...

No stated range. Total waste of time. Suicide doors are stupid. But for those of you needing the fold-down midgate...maybe this is the truck for you.

Booo...no stated range. Booo...suicide doors. Not sure how I feel about the induction charger being placed under the truck....though that automatic Roomba-like charger was pretty cool.

Found it here; https://www.stellantis-keynote-ces2023.com/

Where are you watching it?

The day I started this thread the stock was at $170. It will do what it does and I don't care. I will continue to hold it until I'm forced to take mandatory withdrawals per the IRS. I will say, with everything Tesla is involved in, it should not be directly compared to any pure auto...

Voted no. I sleep at least 10 nights a year in my truck. Actually I don't know if I voted. I don't care about the midgate.

I saw that quote, but it seemed more like hearsay. The last publicly released statement was still 500 miles. We should learn more at CES next week.

Does the Ram EV meet your definition of pipeline? This is not meant to be a snarky question, but some might say yes and others might call it more of a pipe dream. But they are still claiming they will produce a 500 mile variant full size truck. I will stick to gas until there is a 500 mile EV...

I care. 500 mile's EPA range or bust.

I disagree. Up to 500 miles is a ceiling, a perfect conditions maximum, a limit. 500+ is a stated range plus maybe more miles under perfect conditions. When they removed the 500+ they removed the idea that the CT would get 500 miles under anything except perfect conditions.

This is not a new argument. I remember what seems like a year ago having this same conversation. The 500+ was removed from the website a long time ago. I did not like it then, and I still don't like it. I cannot be convinced that a stated range of "500+ is the same thing as a stated range of...

It's not true that I he trimotor page said "up to 500+". It just said 500+

That's not true. The trimotor page displayed it the same way the single motor page displayed it. https://images.app.goo.gl/V579ya1XRqTD6bCx7 That wasn't the only place 500+ was mentioned. And didn't always say "up to". https://images.app.goo.gl/FHz3heD7iLeZZqSQ6 Tesla has sent mixed messages...

You lost me at Too absolute. All money does not.

But are we? They are still building the machine that will build the machine. I want deets too...I just don't think we are that close right now. Stay calm till spring.

70x? It's trading at 29x earnings right now. Still not cheap but not 70x. There are lots of ways to value value a company. Some ways make sense and others don't. Generally I do think Tesla trades more like tech vs manufacturing, but thier auto manufacturing margins are so much better then...

I know he wants to keep it private. I was just caveating my hold till 2049 statement.