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I don’t understand why anyone would expect Tesla to lower CT prices merely because some people are unhappy. If they had 2M preorders (give or take), and they hope to make 250k a year at max capacity, a 9 year backlog of reservation holders Was not sustainable. The volume of reservations allows...

One could argue that the “lesson” should be believing Elon in a non-binding, non-contractual situation. We can debate the price of steel all day; there was never, ever any chance of Cybertruck launching at the prices referenced in 2019. It truly shocks me that people are just now realizing it.

I find it legimately head scratching how many people are shocked and disappointed by the numbers revealed today. Did you all truly not expect substantial increases relative to 2019? Really?

That’s where I think it gets tricky, though, and why I used Rivian as an example. If Rivian moves forward with its e-bike plans, and starts generating, say, 5% of its annual profits on bikes and licensed, in-house software, are they more than just a car company? Perhaps the answer is “yes...

I kind of responded to this above, but just for clarity’s sake. I did a poor job clarifying that I find the phrase “just another car company” to carry multiple interpretations. The premise of the phrase as used in the article is that Tesla is just like Ford, GM, Toyota, etc. And they are...

I’m not claiming Tesla is identical to every other car manufacturer. I agree with you entirely that Tesla does a lot of things different (read: better) than other brands. Perhaps my issues is the phrase “just another car company,“ overall, and I’m conflating issues. To the extent the...

Does Toyota get to claim that it’s not just another auto maker if its cumulative net profits are better than every one else? To me, Toyota is precisely just another auto maker. Tesla does a great job selling cars. This is why I hold the belief they are elite. This is fair, and perhaps it’s...

You're cherry-picking per car profit as your chosen metric because, obviously, it's the most favorable to your position. But profitability on a per car basis is only part of the overall analysis, not the end all, be all. If Ferrari makes an ultra expensive car that turns a higher per-car...

Why would they need to release things like final range and price? Just pull a Tesla and, months before you‘re supposed to ramp production of your long awaited vehicle, just continue to keep it a secret. People around here eat that up. Then you allow people to just pretend and insert whatever...

We all agree that he wants to clobber the competition for MY and M3, right? And yet both have remained amongst the highest priced options - if not the highest - in their respective vehicle markets. There has been no market correction to undercut the competition. Profit margin > market share...

You just seemed pretty emphatic that the photo we are all looking at is a single, giant cast. It seems pretty clear that is not what we are looking at with the leaked photo. That is not to say the end product can’t/won’t be a single cast, of course. It just doesn’t seem we have confirmation...

See Sandy’s video posted at #363. He pretty clearly disagrees with “ONE BIG ASS CASTING,” at least as represented in this widely-discussed photo.

Sure are.

There was no update because the Cybertruck is so far from being a reality they can’t even give reasonable guesstimates. Tesla’s inability to comment on what you ask for - features or pricing - is the most relevant piece of information as to where they truly are with CT production; namely, they...