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  1. you ordered the 500 miles cybertruck, and they launch with the 350 miles, what do you do

    The main reason you need 500 EPA is that that is only going to be about 450 or less real world miles and if you ever want to tow an RV, you will be lucky to see 180 miles towing 10-80% actual range between stops. The 350 mile truck is useless to me. Lucky I am way down on the waiting list so...
  2. 350 mile range Quad Motor rumored to be 1st trim launched

    Won’t be taking delivery of mine without 500 mile range. Towing an RV trailer has to get 180 mile range to be usable for my use case. That would be the death of the Cybertruck before it even got started. Bested by the Silverado EV in mileage. Sorry but that would be a very BIG mistake on...
  3. Business Insider: Tesla's Cybertruck is finally coming. It's going to rattle rivals and transform the EV market as we know it.

    That article just proves how clueless the industry insiders are. Buyer’s equivalent to Hummer buyers? Give me a break. Just goes to show how the industry will not know what hit them. An efficient vehicle, with 25% or less of the maintenance that outperforms in just about every spec...
  4. All Parking Lots with more than 8 spots Should Have Solar Canopies and EV Chargers

    You guys have totally switched the discussion from mandated coverage of all parking lots to Factories choosing to install solar for their own use. Everyone knows solar has a payback of around 6 years depending on many local factors and is a good investment for a large user. Totally different...
  5. All Parking Lots with more than 8 spots Should Have Solar Canopies and EV Chargers

    I guess you like paying $5 to park when you go grocery shopping, the mall, restaurants ? This would be the end to free parking everywhere. Just another way for them to tax the hell out of the little guy. Who is paying for the $200K or more to cover a Walmart parking lot? Sounds great until...
  6. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    There are several technological advantages the 3680 will bring. Unfortunately most not delivered yet. Dry battery cathode and anode process, less internal resistance for better heat dissipation / flatter theoretical charge curve, higher energy density from optimized chemistry changes. To be...
  7. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    Yes you could use 100% for starting charge, but then you get into the entire do you even have enough time overnight to get to 100% calculation. As you elude to above, when doing any cross country no one charges above 80% due to the time penalty, not battery capacity. Charging from 80% to 100%...
  8. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    I agree. Only the 10% -80% range matters for cross country travel, so 500 EPA = 450 real = 225 towing 100% = .7 x 225 = 157.5 miles towing real world range. This matches up with the Rivian / Lightning pack size and efficiency data. If you increase CT to 180 kWhr min, and give tesla a better...
  9. Anti-EV idiocy

    Uber/Lyft has changed the game. Self driving cars will change again massively.
  10. Anti-EV idiocy

    Okay then, what is your reasoning that explains the other manufacturers down between 20%-45%. Nissan may be worse than the others for that reason, but they are now projecting ICE vehicle sales overall for 2022 to be in the 13-14 million range. Don’t say Covid either, as this trend started way...
  11. Anti-EV idiocy

    I like how he says there have been no advancements in batteries which is total BS. Cars driving 750 miles now on a single charge with a battery in the Model S standard pack. This is one of the big reasons I have been adamant that the top of the line 4 motor cybertruck, has to get 160 -180miles...
  12. Anti-EV idiocy

    Not really clear on your point on this one. Tesla actually does not have a loan arm of the company. They just subcontract to other lenders. I didn’t even bother going through them and used my own credit union. Not sure this is not like buying anything else of substantial value. And yes, you...
  13. Anti-EV idiocy

    Very good point. Already happened to Corvette owners when they switched engine manufacturers. The old one could not afford to stay in business anymore on used part sales only. Not only this, but there will basically be almost no new ICE car new designs from a platform standpoint. No one will...
  14. Anti-EV idiocy

    Many are already in this sprial. Nissan Sales are down 50% since 2015. You are exactly right, but I have no idea how they can lower prices with minimal profit margins now. Most likely they will continue to cut jobs and manufacturing capacity as they use product scarcity to hold pricing up...
  15. Anti-EV idiocy

    Wait till they see the economic impact, although not so sure used ICE car prices don’t plummet. Between new ICE cars being unavailable or simply much much more expensive due to all those fixed costs being spread out on half or less of the production volume. You could potentially lose 20K...
  16. Anti-EV idiocy

    Really? I thought they said it will be illegal to sell new ICE cars after 2035, and that was not the US government, that was state governments. Did I miss something? Not being able to sell new ICE cars, and forcing people to scrap used ICE vehicles are two entirely different things.
  17. Anti-EV idiocy

    It is amaxing the number of people who can not do basic math. Especially looking or creating a TCO model. When I tell people I bought a Tesla, they say must be nice to be rich, I respond that it must be nice to have so much extra money to waste on their gas car. Normally leads to an...
  18. 500 mile Cybertruck is a must

    Fully agree. Performance in a Truck is payload, towing and range. When have you known Tesla to have poor performance? They will target industry leading performance on all three of those parameters. Also 4680 cell production ramp is going much slower than planned, which would make sense to...
  19. Anti-EV idiocy

    The Truth. Wait till the Cybertruck can connect to backup your house.
  20. Dual Motor CT will be $75K. Change my mind.

    Very good summary with one caveat. Some of the realists believe in data. We back our opinions from that data. Most of the hopefuls do not have any data to back their opinions. Also there is no logic in their arguments. The mission of Tesla is to speed up the world conversion to power vehicles...





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