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  1. you ordered the 500 miles cybertruck, and they launch with the 350 miles, what do you do

    The main reason you need 500 EPA is that that is only going to be about 450 or less real world miles and if you ever want to tow an RV, you will be lucky to see 180 miles towing 10-80% actual range between stops. The 350 mile truck is useless to me. Lucky I am way down on the waiting list so...
  2. 350 mile range Quad Motor rumored to be 1st trim launched

    Won’t be taking delivery of mine without 500 mile range. Towing an RV trailer has to get 180 mile range to be usable for my use case. That would be the death of the Cybertruck before it even got started. Bested by the Silverado EV in mileage. Sorry but that would be a very BIG mistake on...
  3. Business Insider: Tesla's Cybertruck is finally coming. It's going to rattle rivals and transform the EV market as we know it.

    That article just proves how clueless the industry insiders are. Buyer’s equivalent to Hummer buyers? Give me a break. Just goes to show how the industry will not know what hit them. An efficient vehicle, with 25% or less of the maintenance that outperforms in just about every spec...
  4. All Parking Lots with more than 8 spots Should Have Solar Canopies and EV Chargers

    You guys have totally switched the discussion from mandated coverage of all parking lots to Factories choosing to install solar for their own use. Everyone knows solar has a payback of around 6 years depending on many local factors and is a good investment for a large user. Totally different...
  5. All Parking Lots with more than 8 spots Should Have Solar Canopies and EV Chargers

    I guess you like paying $5 to park when you go grocery shopping, the mall, restaurants ? This would be the end to free parking everywhere. Just another way for them to tax the hell out of the little guy. Who is paying for the $200K or more to cover a Walmart parking lot? Sounds great until...
  6. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    There are several technological advantages the 3680 will bring. Unfortunately most not delivered yet. Dry battery cathode and anode process, less internal resistance for better heat dissipation / flatter theoretical charge curve, higher energy density from optimized chemistry changes. To be...
  7. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    Yes you could use 100% for starting charge, but then you get into the entire do you even have enough time overnight to get to 100% calculation. As you elude to above, when doing any cross country no one charges above 80% due to the time penalty, not battery capacity. Charging from 80% to 100%...
  8. Report: Cybertruck Battery Pack Production Will Initially Begin at Tesla Fremont Factory

    I agree. Only the 10% -80% range matters for cross country travel, so 500 EPA = 450 real = 225 towing 100% = .7 x 225 = 157.5 miles towing real world range. This matches up with the Rivian / Lightning pack size and efficiency data. If you increase CT to 180 kWhr min, and give tesla a better...
  9. 500 mile Cybertruck is a must

    Fully agree. Performance in a Truck is payload, towing and range. When have you known Tesla to have poor performance? They will target industry leading performance on all three of those parameters. Also 4680 cell production ramp is going much slower than planned, which would make sense to...
  10. Dual Motor CT will be $75K. Change my mind.

    Very good summary with one caveat. Some of the realists believe in data. We back our opinions from that data. Most of the hopefuls do not have any data to back their opinions. Also there is no logic in their arguments. The mission of Tesla is to speed up the world conversion to power vehicles...
  11. Hopefully Cybertruck tow range is better than F-150 Lightning

    You might want to actually pay attention to just how bad EA is. Not uncommon at all for 3 out of 4 chargers to be out of order. A F150L needing a tow on second road trip is nothing I will sign up for.
  12. Hopefully Cybertruck tow range is better than F-150 Lightning

    EA EA’s high reliability network. Have to be masochist to buy another EV brand.
  13. Is the Big Wiper Final?

    This thread is getting hilarious. I throw my vote in for Wipezilla.
  14. Is the Big Wiper Final?

    Me included. Happy to let everyone else to be the beta testers and for me to receive a refined product.
  15. Dual Motor CT will be $75K. Change my mind.

    Supply Demand period. They will not be able to meet supply for a long time and price is the only mechanism to control. They have never met their pricing goals yet and that is due to the insane demand.
  16. FSD and Towing

    This is actually a huge safety improvement opportunity for Tesla and the human race. RVers are normally older drivers that don’t have great reaction times anyway. Increasing following distance and constantly sampling sensors is a huge safety improvement for this vehicle class. I would think...
  17. WILL TESLA EVENTUALLY KILL ME?

    Sorry Tesla Auto Pilot did not kill those Motorcyclist, the drivers did? What were they doing sleeping at the wheel? How come they did not see the motorcycle? I am sure autopilot will get much better as we continue down this path, but those idiot owners know 100% they are not level 5...
  18. Another Hit Piece on Cybertruck

    That list is even crazier when you put the relative actual sales numbers on the chart. ICE car manufacturers are in for a world of financial hurt in the next 3 years and many will not survive.
  19. Another Hit Piece on Cybertruck

    You are a fool to rely on the EA network of chargers. Just ask the All Electric Family who had to be towed on their second F150L road trip. They have had many other EV’s, so this was not user error, but EA chargers all down. Talk all you want about looks etc, but doesn’t go from point A to...
  20. Dual Motor CT will be $75K. Change my mind.

    The truck with reasonable specs (not single motor model) will not be priced less than the Model Y LR. Never going to happen IMHO They will end up pulling significant sales from the Y to the truck. Tesla has so much room now on pricing with Ford, Rivian, and GM raising their truck prices and...


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