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Agree with your point. Probably better to use "MEAN" vs "AVERAGE". A Model T that is still registered and roadworthy will sku the results via Average for example, and "classic" cars is a pretty segment that's large enough it may fudge the overall math. Also, the other post suggesting that...

The newness of EVs has spawned an entirely new insurance segment - insurance for the auto manufacturers of resale values on leased vehicles. If the manufacturer buy-back on a $100k EV after a 3 year lease should be say $60k, but the market value is only $50k that's a massive liability for the...

First off - glad you made it home ok. Travelling with kids is amazing until you're in a jam, then not so much. I am not a Tesla owner (yet) but my best friend is and in our Boys Chat" it's a 50 / 50 split with my buddy and I defending EVs and my bro and another friend naysaying constantly...

There's no point basing interest on pre-orders. Tesla has a lot of enthusiasts, others not so much. But if the Rivian was making vehicles today, they would sell them all. That'll be the case as the ramp production (assuming the vehicle is good, which people on this thread indicate it is).