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wrong. The space is not the same. The a pillars are way longer. That addddddssss weight. also fact, it hurts visibility because the a pillars are huge and block lateral visibility.

That it makes no sense to you is mostly a problem for you. It destroys visibility. Creates unusable interior space that I have to waste energy on cooling and heating, a giant greenhouse effect internally. It creates a wasteful giant windshield that is more expensive to fix, wipe, defog. It...

It’s wasted in the sense that it s a space you really don’t want to put things into. It will reflect up on the windshield and/or hurt visibility if you do. Also, it extends the A pillars and hurts outward visibility. It’s just jarring and somehow very unattractive from the inside. From the...

We can agree to disagree. None of the original photos showed an angle where you saw the wasted space of the dash to such an effect/degree. At least I didn't see them. They were in ways where you didn't really get to see that space, or at least where it was easy not to notice that space. We also...

I get what youre getting at, but it's still a shock to see in it's implementation. Look, the truck exterior is polarizing. Some people really hate it. I particularly really love it. But I didn't really contemplate what the interior would be like. Frankly, I thought the driver would be pushed...

In other words, making me exactly correct. And what you are…I’ll leave to others to make up their own minds. “Only once” would be enough. And he said it more than once.

‘Yea I stopped listening to his disingenuous “analysis”. He quotes 250k units and ignores that Elon repeatedly said maybe 250-500k units… to push on whatever trope this dude was pushing. Any subsequent conclusion built off this edifice of dishonesty easily falls apart. I’ve cancelled that guy...

Probably a minority view but ripple looks kind of cool in how it reflects. Wouldn’t be an issue for me one way or the other. That said I super appreciate folks that notice issues like this and it results in higher quality builds.

Thank you. I stand corrected. Isnt plaid under 2 seconds though?

I'm pretty sure later specs (when I was placing my order, which was still really early on) it showed over 3 seconds. Maybe 3.3 or 3.5. Then again I could be misremembering. There may have been all kinds of hopes and dream specs, but I think you have to go by whatever are the latest most...

It does so with the Model S, yes, but the CT is way bulkier, heavier, way more unsprung weight to turn on the giant wheels. The original quote on 0-60 with the 3 motor, I believe, was around 3.5 second to 60 which is ludicrous speed. Plaid is under 2 seconds. So to get nearer plaid, they will...

I’m going to guess 3 motor base starts at 60k, and 4 motor base starts 80k.

Ok so 4 motor being plaid and 3 motor being ludicrous was a good guess on my part apparently… Now for the costs. What‘s everybody’s best guess where the base prices on the 3 and 4 motor will start?

High but slow is “baked mode” aka apogee can be the PC name :D

C^2? ;p

Warp Drive! Engage!

I expect a token trickle released at the end of 2023. First 500 likely will be really high quality checked over by hand a lot. I suspect 2024 could put out up to 100,000 units, but the first 50,000 will have somewhat jank quality control. My hope is that by 150,000 they will get quality control...

First post so sorry if Im posting this in the wrong place. I skimmed around and didn't easily find an answer/thread, so if it's well tread territory, would appreciate a pointer. Short version, is the 4-motor cyber truck likely to be the 'plaid' version of the truck, and the 3-motor more the...