10,000+ Miles Driving a Cybertruck – Things learned: range, great sound and full love/hate list after 10k miles

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Two owners that now have over 10,000 miles on their Cybertruck shared the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Info is not 100% comprehensive but very grateful to have it from one of the most driven CTs that was not a test vehicle.

AWD CT 9,944 miles on odometer on Jan 14th, broke 10,000 Jan 15th
Took ownership of truck with 72 miles on it

Tires
First 1,700 miles was with A/T tires and Aero Covers
Remaining 8,000+ miles have been with A/S tires and Aero covers (no noticeable wh/mile difference)

2 Drivers – One aggressive driver, one more conservative about 80/20 split for drive miles
Mix of about 70% highway 30% city
- 1 long road trip of 1,500+ miles

HVAC used liberally both in cold and warm climate. Cooled seats are great

Insurance - $465/mo for two drivers. Full coverage amount $90k and highest possible deductible.

No towing. Max payload of 2,000 ish lbs for a short 18 mile trip. Avg payload 300-400lbs
Mostly driven in warmer weather for this time of year minimum of about 30, max of about 73, avg of about 60

Mirrors – One driver really did not like digital rear view mirror low on the screen, other did not mind. Both drivers really enjoyed side cameras and would remove mirrors if they could.

Wiper – After about 3,000 miles of driving and some rain completely forget that it is a mega wiper, does fine

Charging
About 30% supercharging 10% destination charging and 60% home charging.
- Home charging with a Gen 3 Tesla wall connector takes about 8-14 hours most days at 32 or 48 amps
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- Home charging is done to 90% for the most part to try to avoid having to supercharge at slow speeds but maintain good battery health
- Most destination charging very slow and primarily only counted on to maintain battery % and sentry mode
- Charging at V2 superchargers very slow and could take up to 2 hours
- Charging at V3 superchargers better but 70% charge takes over an hour
- No V4 chargers available to test

Range
With conservative in town driving got efficiency as good as 290 wh/mile, on highway over 900 was seen occasionally. Two sets of tires but mostly A/S, and a variety of driving conditions. Average lifetime 10,000mile wh/mile across both drivers in household was 599 giving the cybertruck a 100% battery used range of 206 miles or a 80% battery usage of 164 miles. Mostly fairly aggressive driving, no speeding tickets or accidents, but “not babying the truck”.

Likes:
Sound system
Handling
Cooled seats
Speed
Steer by Wire
Acceleration
Passenger Visibility
Frunk with dividers

Dislikes:
Charge Time
Road Noise
Range
Attention the truck gets, people touching, fingerprints are bad, and taking pictures
Vault is not waterproof, especially if raining while driving at high speeds it gets wet inside
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Problems:
Main screen blacked out, went dead. Had to get towed to service center as battery % was low and at an unknown level. Service center had it in 90mins
Plastic trim piece on vault came off, mobile Tesla service tech fixed next day using same part
One flat tire (screw) had to be towed but tire was able to be patched, this was A/T tire and was going to be replaced anyway

One of the biggest mileage/range/distance/quality reports so far that I know of. Came from a private group and owner had privacy concerns due to employment but shared some info that was ok for us to share. The pics suck, they are from a facetime vid and taken/cropped with permission. They are planning on publishing a full HD video on this but have 20+ hours of raw footage to edit, I will post a link once they make it public.

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Their Summary TLDR:
A dream to drive, disappointing charge speeds and range about 210/164 miles averaged over 10,000 miles, think the overall value is ok, still some production problems to work out, sound system is beyond great.

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Busy couple of days so missed a lot of questions/rage/thoughts.
Couple quick ones.
Insurance: $465/mo 2 drivers, AWD CT and 2021 Model 3, clean driving records minus a couple old tickets. High mileage drivers so that bumps rates, if fibbing about mileage would have been $390/mo but not a good idea. Previously had a Model 3 and Ford Raptor, insurance on those was $205 to the CT added significantly to insurance cost. Insurance in CA is also higher than the national average. (with big Influencers posting insurance quotes this one is in-line with many others)
Range: 10,000+ miles, driven like a truck and not hypermiled, but not GTA, no tickets or accidents in that time frame, lot of comments about how 599 avg wh/mile could be achieved. Would just say that it is a good size range sample at 10k miles and if driving like described in some of these posts would be pretty likely to get a ticket after that many miles. (lots of other range posts out now, 599 is on the high end but driven like a truck, not hypermiled)
Road Noise: Pretty loud with both sets of tires, maybe a liiiiiiitle better with the A/S but not a significant difference. Not a deal breaker but not a quiet ride. (pretty well known, hopefully better sound insulation with future versions)
Sound system: is good enough to jam out and drown out road noise, but doing that your not going to hear anyone honking at you etc. (slam dunk)
Vault: is semi dry storage at best, if you get a heavy downpour the stuff in the vault is going to be pretty wet. There are also seams in the vault bed that will pretty much make it a no-go for hauling dirt/gravel (gets a little wet, not good for gravel/dirt)
Fingerprints: If you want the truck to look factory wrap it in clear PPF, or a color wrap. It looks really bad stock after even a couple times newbies open the door, or random people just touch it. (ppf is the way to go)
Rust/Corrosion: A non-issue for this CT, but it was PPF wrapped not long after taking delivery.
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Great summary. Reading between the lines of other reviews I’ve seen, all of what you said tracks. Shame the range is so low. I was hoping road noise would have been better too. I’ll be eagerly awaiting the full video review. And my VIN assignment 😅
 
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Yea, pretty significant amount of driving, well over 100 miles a day avg, but said the one good size road trip added a lot to the total in a short amount of time. Also two drivers makes a world of difference.
 
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Is there a link to the original review?
Came from a private group and owner had privacy concerns due to employment but shared some info that was ok for us to share. The pics suck, they are from a facetime vid and taken/cropped with permission. They are planning on publishing a full HD video on this but have 20+ hours of raw footage to edit, I will post a link once they make it public.
 


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All of the above tells me there is a critical failure warning light flashing at Tesla. I am a long-time Tesla shareholder, owner of three Teslas, huge advocate of the company and all around fan. (I recently and reluctantly cancelled the CT FS because the range would not meet my needs.) But I am calling it: something is deeply broken.

We now have enough data to definitively say that Tesla blew it on the Cybertruck range (not least this post which is consistent with previous data). There is no way - with all of the very public testing done by Tesla - that the engineering team did not know (long ago) that the real-world range would suck. They knew. And Tesla has an incredible engineering and manufacturing team so they could have fixed this. No question. So it seems to me that we can conclude:
1) Range sucks
2) Team knew long before release that range sucks
3) It is a big deal for customers
4) They could have fixed it but didn't

With these facts on the table (I think they are facts at this point) one has to ask why did Tesla get this so wrong? We have seen this before. It is a symptom of an organization where everyone is afraid to tell the emperor that he is not wearing clothes. It is a symptom of a company where bad news is hidden and bad data is reformulated until it fits a pre-ordained internal narrative. If that diagnosis is correct, Tesla is in serious trouble. For all of its accomplishments and incredibly talented staff, it will collapse in on itself unless this gets fixed. I hope it is a wake-up call to the board and the leadership. Warning light flashing IMO.
 

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Was wondering if they had it wrapped?
 

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All of the above tells me there is a critical failure warning light flashing at Tesla. I am a long-time Tesla shareholder, owner of three Teslas, huge advocate of the company and all around fan. (I recently and reluctantly cancelled the CT FS because the range would not meet my needs.) But I am calling it: something is deeply broken.

We now have enough data to definitively say that Tesla blew it on the Cybertruck range (not least this post which is consistent with previous data). There is no way - with all of the very public testing done by Tesla - that the engineering team did not know (long ago) that the real-world range would suck. They knew. And Tesla has an incredible engineering and manufacturing team so they could have fixed this. No question. So it seems to me that we can conclude:
1) Range sucks
2) Team knew long before release that range sucks
3) It is a big deal for customers
4) They could have fixed it but didn't

With these facts on the table (I think they are facts at this point) one has to ask why did Tesla get this so wrong? We have seen this before. It is a symptom of an organization where everyone is afraid to tell the emperor that he is not wearing clothes. It is a symptom of a company where bad news is hidden and bad data is reformulated until it fits a pre-ordained internal narrative. If that diagnosis is correct, Tesla is in serious trouble. For all of its accomplishments and incredibly talented staff, it will collapse in on itself unless this gets fixed. I hope it is a wake-up call to the board and the leadership. Warning light flashing IMO.
What range/numbers are you getting in your Model 3? I suspect pretty dang similar.
 

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Based on my calculations, this means the Cyberbeast spec will get 112 miles to a full charge and about 12 when towing. I'm a mathematician so I know what I'm talking about
They are the same dang vehicle except for the extra motor that drops the range a few percent?

I certainly hope you are being facetious.
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