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That's a hybrid not an EV.
Bigger kWh battery at 92 kWh than most of the "EVs" tho!
It is impressive. Imagine how much gas that will save with typical daily driving!
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No, you're right, my exterior dimension chart listed the R1S length rather than R1T length.

I've corrected for it in new ext. dimension heat maps

my only excuse is that I don't pay a lot of attention to Rivian, and also I find their data hard to find and understand (length being an easier one to find, but in the trenches...). I may have misstated other R1T stats somewhere, and happy to correct if found
 

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he’s making a different point.

of course a Rivian can tow that.Lots of trucks can.

the safety/tow ratings don’t care

they care instead about eg “what can Rivian do when towing 9K lbs, downhill, in a 70mph cross wind, when an obstacle requires the Rivian to swerve or slam on the brakes”

put differently, tow ratings are about what a vehicle can do when everything goes wrong, not what can it do when everything goes right

and there are a lot of folks who tow regularly that, reasonable, thing tow ratings don’t go far enough to reflect their own definition of how “wrong” something could go and then still feel safe
There is also a very big difference between towing a 9k lb RV that’s 12’ tall and 38’ long vs a 9k lb vehicle on a trailer. And how that was bouncing around and wobbling, just shows how frail it is. That’s an easy tow.

These things are so far from the ICE counter parts right now that towing should be a secondary consideration. I’m hoping the CT fills a need for a reasonable sized urban vehicle. I don’t see it doing any hard work.

everyone knocking the lightning and ram staying with the same deign missed the point that the pickup doesn’t need to change and apparently the majority of buyers don’t want it to change. There’s value is consistency in design in the truck ecosystem. People love making the truck theirs.
 

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Bigger kWh battery than most of the "EVs" tho!
It is impressive. Imagine how much gas that will save with typical daily driving!
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with a hybrid pickup. There is room on the road for every type of vehicles. I love my Prius, and if it were not for the CT, I might have picked up a Jeep Wrangler4Xe

Having said that, EVs and Hybrids are two very different beasts, and you can't compare the two.
 
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I can’t make it out, but if anything, 12kW would make the most sense as that is the rated output of a 14-50 outlet. (240V x 50A = 12kW)
def not saying it is/isnt 12kW

thinking more in terms of what labeling would make most sense to be embossed on the outlet

in all my cars w 3 prong outlets, the outlet voltage is what's embossed, from memory

of course my Lightning's pro-power plugs in bed have that, plus kW max, plus amperage. so maybe it says 12kW and 120v etc.

the potato phone photo of the bed makes it hard to tell what's embossed on CT, but it appeared to be a single, short, set of charachters - so if they fit only one thing I'd think 120v etc rather than 12kWh, if they have to choose?

either way, neither here nor there except to the extent it goes to show that TFL's guess of "2kWh" doesn't make any sense
 


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Tesla CT is not unique here in L2 charging tho. Almost all of the BEV trucks are coming with 240v (30a) which would charge other vehicles. I charge my Tesla Model X at 30 amps nightly.
For the Teslas I've used (Y/3/S) we get roughly 1 mile of charge per 220v AMP per hour, give or take. The Y seems to get about 45 miles of charge per hour on the 60amp 240v circuit (48a charging), which is about 11-12kW depending on the voltage (moves around between 230-240 for us).

Of course chargers limit draw to 80% of the circuit.

A 220v 30a outlet at 80% continuous draw will provide 24a, so 5.2 kW. That's about 5 miles of charge per hour.

A 220v 50a outlet at 80% continuous draw will provide 40a, so 8.8 kW. A bit over 8 miles of charge per hour.

So the 50a is going to provide 69% more charging speed for another EV over the 30a on other truck BEVs. That will be much more helpful in a situation where you need to bring a "gas tank" to a stranded EV. I've never run across a stranded Tesla, but the question sure seems to come up when EV skeptics ask about it.

Are there any other BEV trucks with a 50amp/220v outlet?

Edited to clarify miles per 220v amp, not kW. And some spellings.
 
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I would have liked to have seen the frunk have at least some 120V outlets but then again the frunk on the CT really isn't usefull at 15 inches deep (can't even get a Yeti in there) so I would have been fine with no frunk at all if they could put more storage inside.
When they build enough of them the Yetis will come. ;)
 

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So if this is true, then the CT falls in the "Best between worlds" vehicle instead of the " Best of both worlds".

I really think/hope it will outshine all others on technology... and this will set it apart... this is my hope!
Well, there's still the BAW.
 


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I'm surprised there's no mention of GVWR or payload.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with a hybrid pickup. There is room on the road for every type of vehicles. I love my Prius, and if it were not for the CT, I might have picked up a Jeep Wrangler4Xe

Having said that, EVs and Hybrids are two very different beasts, and you can't compare the two.

Thats an ev with an oboard generator not a hybrid like a prius or 4xe. It has no transmission. Works just like a train in propulsion with the advantage of also being able to run off a sizeable battery without the generator or any sacrifice in power
 

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I don’t understand how it would fit in a garage while the R1T supposedly doesn’t fit in a regular garage. The Cybertruck is 5” longer.
 
 




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