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Phew! glad I watched the whole post almost jumped over to the Rivian Site to have a look, LOL!

Agree with most of your Rivian points Todd. But for me it comes down your number 2 CT point. I'm tired of the scratches dings and worry about rust. I live in BC Canada and yes road salt and rust is a thing, and if it's not salt then it's gravel (paint chips everywhere). The Rivian is just too pretty for my use case. Also as I don't currently have the $s for the Tri-motor the value proposition of Rivian doesn't apply for me.

I'm I'll all in for dual motor CT with FSD. That said if Tesla ever comes out with the Wolverine CT I may be facing a trade in. Not looking forward to parking a full size. Parking spaces up here are just getting smaller and smaller.

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Great post as usual. There are definitely advantages to both. For me price is the biggie that put me on hold for CT. I wonder how many people would Jump ship if there was a dual motor Rivian for $50K ? If CT put the mid gate in, I would still stay with CT but there are a few things I would miss about Rivian:

  • Spare Tire
  • More accessible bed
  • the storage behind the backseat
  • interior design
I have had many old cars that paint held up on them so that is not a big deal for me. And I wouldn’t use the Tank Turn. I do like the larger bed on CT and the charging network. I am curious if the price was the same, how would they stack up for the rest of you guys?
 

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Agree with your points however, I have one exception. If there never was a Cybertruck, I would have looked at the Rivian as just another truck only in electric trim. Then I would have waited until my current car died and bought a hybrid sedan or SUV. When Cybertruck appeared my life view changed. Rivian, nice truck. Cybertruck, what the F!? Give it to me!
 

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Phew! glad I watched the whole video almost jumped over to the Rivian Site to have a look, LOL!

Agree with most of your Rivian points Todd. But for me it comes down your number 2 CT point. I'm tired of the scratches dings and worry about rust. I live in BC Canada and yes road salt and rust is a thing, and if it's not salt then it's gravel (paint chips everywhere). The Rivian is just too pretty for my use case. Also as I don't currently have the $s for the Tri-motor the value proposition of Rivian doesn't apply for me.

I'm I'll all in for dual motor CT with FSD. That said if Tesla ever comes out with the Wolverine CT I may be facing a trade in. Not looking forward to parking a full size. Parking spaces up here are just getting smaller and smaller.

Cheers.
where are you from? I'm in Prince George, BC...... some salt and gravel up here come winter haha
 

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Great post as usual. There are definitely advantages to both. For me price is the biggie that put me on hold for CT. I wonder how many people would Jump ship if there was a dual motor Rivian for $50K ? If CT put the mid gate in, I would still stay with CT but there are a few things I would miss about Rivian:

  • Spare Tire
  • More accessible bed
  • the storage behind the backseat
  • interior design
I have had many old cars that paint held up on them so that is not a big deal for me. And I wouldn’t use the Tank Turn. I do like the larger bed on CT and the charging network. I am curious if the price was the same, how would they stack up for the rest of you guys?
I prefer the look of the CT over the Rivian. If they were equal I'd rather support the manufacturer that forced the EV transition.... hence Tesla.
 

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I’m all in on the CT, and live in British Columbia where I do a fair amount of winter driving between Kamloops and the Gulf Islands. I need durability and a bigger bed to carry solar equipment for my company.
 

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One think that is going to be essential for CT owners is going to be to get road salt off the truck after each exposure. As every brewer knows chloride and 300 series stainless don't mix. Well actually I guess they do mix wherein lies the problem.
 

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One think that is going to be essential for CT owners is going to be to get road salt off the truck after each exposure. As every brewer knows chloride and 300 series stainless don't mix. Well actually I guess they do mix wherein lies the problem.
it looks like all 300 series steel are not created equal. I am not sure which one Cybertruck is using.

“18/8SS is a term for all 300-Series Stainless Steels, typically 302HQ or 304. 300 Series Stainless is much more corrosion resistant than Steel or 410, but is a weaker material for fasteners. 18/8 Stainless has higher levels of Chromium (~18%) and Nickel (~8%) and can pass 1000 hours of the salt spray test. 18/8 Stainless can be used in ACQ treated lumber without any additional plating or coating. These types of fasteners are hardened through cold working, where the fastener is formed from the wire without heating.

316 Stainless, which is often used in commercial kitchens and other high-touch environments, includes 2-3% Molybdenum which increases corrosion resistance. 316 Stainless is less prone to pitting and bleeding than either 410 or 18/8.

With all types of stainless steel, there may be some surface rust as Iron particles exposed to the elements begin to oxidize. This surface rust will not penetrate as quickly through the part as it would in a steel part.”

Bolts on this page gives you a feel of designer look we may get on our Cybertruck after a while:

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https://uneedabolt.com/steel-corrosion-resistance/
 

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Phew! glad I watched the whole video almost jumped over to the Rivian Site to have a look, LOL!

Agree with most of your Rivian points Todd. But for me it comes down your number 2 CT point. I'm tired of the scratches dings and worry about rust. I live in BC Canada and yes road salt and rust is a thing, and if it's not salt then it's gravel (paint chips everywhere). The Rivian is just too pretty for my use case. Also as I don't currently have the $s for the Tri-motor the value proposition of Rivian doesn't apply for me.

I'm I'll all in for dual motor CT with FSD. That said if Tesla ever comes out with the Wolverine CT I may be facing a trade in. Not looking forward to parking a full size. Parking spaces up here are just getting smaller and smaller.

Cheers.
So your from Canadia, eh? 😜
 

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Actually the name of the country is spelled Cnd. If you ask a native how it is spelled they answer "C, eh, N, eh, D eh". And that's why so many of us down here misspell it.
 

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it looks like all 300 series steel are not created equal. I am not sure which one Cybertruck is using.

“18/8SS is a term for all 300-Series Stainless Steels, typically 302HQ or 304. 300 Series Stainless is much more corrosion resistant than Steel or 410, but is a weaker material for fasteners. 18/8 Stainless has higher levels of Chromium (~18%) and Nickel (~8%) and can pass 1000 hours of the salt spray test. 18/8 Stainless can be used in ACQ treated lumber without any additional plating or coating. These types of fasteners are hardened through cold working, where the fastener is formed from the wire without heating.

316 Stainless, which is often used in commercial kitchens and other high-touch environments, includes 2-3% Molybdenum which increases corrosion resistance. 316 Stainless is less prone to pitting and bleeding than either 410 or 18/8.

With all types of stainless steel, there may be some surface rust as Iron particles exposed to the elements begin to oxidize. This surface rust will not penetrate as quickly through the part as it would in a steel part.”

Bolts on this page gives you a feel of designer look we may get on our Cybertruck after a while:

source:
https://uneedabolt.com/steel-corrosion-resistance/
Living in Norway (which might get the CT as we’re not in the EU and are very EV happy) I’m very concerned with the corrosion resistance as the roads are full of salt all winter here. Would have been more at ease if Tesla called their steel 31x than 30x. Maybe it ends up needing a coat or film to use in snowy environments?

Cold, snowy environments seems to be somewhat an afterthought at Tesla. I’m thinking about the splash guards I got in the mail after a year and that heat pump hasn’t been a thing before now.
 

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Well, you want to hose it down after getting salty 'cause salt makes windows blurry anyhow.

Or maybe that's just a beach and desert thing.

-Crissa
 

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