65005 reasons we need the Plaid Cybertruck

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65000 people are willing to pay over $100k for a 9000# behemoth.
65001 - the CT3 is superior in almost every statistic, the quad plaid would blow the Hummer away
65002 - the CT in any form will be way more environmentally friendly. Likely 60% of the watts per mile.
65003 - the high margin Plaid production will get the line built while commodity prices are high and batteries are somewhat constrained.
65004 - let the rich and very early adapters work our the bugs on lower volumes (we thank thee)
65005 - the Plaid will solve the scalping problem for Tesla


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I'm all for this!! CT Plaid is everything I wanted to Model X to be and now it's becoming much more.
 

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Anybody here think they're really going to start making the EV³ᵡ version this fall when they can't even make the launch edition beyond 1 vehicle per week?
 

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There has got to be some serious playing with the numbers going on. I read 95% take rate, I don't see how that would be possible when you read stories about $110K Hummer price going up to $177K out the door. Also, only $100 reservation fee. The 65000 includes SUV reservations. All of this news from GM just sounds like they're trying to stimulate the stock.

I do agree that the Quad/Plaid CT first would be a good business decision, though.
 


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Tesla wouldn't do that unless they were maxed out on Y production.

They didn't release the Plaid Model S, their prestige, slow-production car, until they could potentially make a thousand a week.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/11/22528963/tesla-model-s-plaid-ev-price-specs-range-speed

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Even Tesla plays the numbers game. The Plaid Model S is an awesome vehicle but it doesn't do 0-60 in less than 2.0sec. even on a treated racetrack. The quarter mile times are a bit higher than 9.23, and they still haven't sent a software update for more than 165mph. The article you quoted said this.

Musk said that Tesla plans to deliver “several hundred [Model S Plaids] per week soon,” and will “probably” ramp up to around 1,000 per week next quarter.

That number 1000 per week seemed high to me. I just don't see 52000 people a year wanting to buy that vehicle. I could easily be wrong though.
 

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. . .I do agree that the Quad/Plaid CT first would be a good business decision, though.
Agree. Especially being that the CT has been so heavily targeted with vitriol.

I know many wouldn't like it, but producing only the monster for the first year and a half would hammer the message home. It would cut off the chance for haters to pit a dual or single motor CT against a competitors top of the line version and have it come up short, then leaving that as the story.
 
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Tesla wouldn't do that unless they were maxed out on Y production.

They didn't release the Plaid Model S, their prestige, slow-production car, until they could potentially make a thousand a week.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/11/22528963/tesla-model-s-plaid-ev-price-specs-range-speed

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If GM has reservations for 65000 hummers, Tesla could easily sell that same amount at $100k.
I would guess a production rate of 2000 per week. As opposed to the 4800 per week at 250000 units per year. In about 6 months they could switch over to the CT3 or equivalent.

The Y reservations might be deceiving. I hear lots of people are canceling in order to get the Austin version. The numbers might be polluted.
 

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Tesla shipped 11.5k Model S in 2021. But they had trouble getting enough parts, the wait list was still six months for the non-plaid at the end of the year, even though they were delivering a dribble of them.

They ended up making an average of 400 a week on a line that was supposed to be making many more S and X.

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65000 people are willing to pay over $100k for a 9000# behemoth.
65001 - the CT3 is superior in almost every statistic, the quad plaid would blow the Hummer away
65002 - the CT in any form will be way more environmentally friendly. Likely 60% of the watts per mile.
65003 - the high margin Plaid production will get the line built while commodity prices are high and batteries are somewhat constrained.
65004 - let the rich and very early adapters work our the bugs on lower volumes (we thank thee)
65005 - the Plaid will solve the scalping problem for Tesla


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10 Reasons we don’t need the Plaid (first)

#1 I want my truck.

#2 The dual motor Cybertruck will outperform the Hummer on every metric save 0-60 regardless which is damned near pointless.

#3 I want my truck.

#4 The tri motor will outperform the Hummer in even flat out accelleration.

#5 I want my truck.

#6 GM is in a slow-race with Rivian to see who can produce the fewest vehicles in 2 years.

#7 I want my truck.

#8 I’m pretty sure the FBI is monitoring this channel until @John K gets his truck.

#9 I want my truck.

#10 The Hummer weighs so much I’m pretty sure I can’t cross several local bridges with it.
 


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65000 people are willing to pay over $100k for a 9000# behemoth.
65001 - the CT3 is superior in almost every statistic, the quad plaid would blow the Hummer away
65002 - the CT in any form will be way more environmentally friendly. Likely 60% of the watts per mile.
65003 - the high margin Plaid production will get the line built while commodity prices are high and batteries are somewhat constrained.
65004 - let the rich and very early adapters work our the bugs on lower volumes (we thank thee)
65005 - the Plaid will solve the scalping problem for Tesla


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BTW, here's a video of the Rivian beating the Hummer in a drag race. So blowing away a Hummer has already been done.

 
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10 Reasons we don’t need the Plaid (first)

#1 I want my truck.

#2 The dual motor Cybertruck will outperform the Hummer on every metric save 0-60 regardless which is damned near pointless.

#3 I want my truck.

#4 The tri motor will outperform the Hummer in even flat out accelleration.

#5 I want my truck.

#6 GM is in a slow-race with Rivian to see who can produce the fewest vehicles in 2 years.

#7 I want my truck.

#8 I’m pretty sure the FBI is monitoring this channel until @John K gets his truck.

#9 I want my truck.

#10 The Hummer weighs so much I’m pretty sure I can’t cross several local bridges with it.
Nice Tcat @Ogre I almost didn't recognize you.

Ok my first 65000 reasons are somewhat repetitive, but come on 1,3,5,7 and 9 are totally repetitive.

65006 - The Plaid will actually get you your truck earlier.
 

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Nice Tcat

65006 - The Plaid will actually get you your truck earlier.
The reverse for many people.

Plaid will suck batteries like nobodies business which will likely cause battery shortages slowing deliveries.

The TCat is out cuddle monster. 18 pounds of aggressive enforces purring. Figured it was more unique than a red tesla on a tesla forum
 
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The reverse for many people.

Plaid will suck batteries like nobodies business which will likely cause battery shortages slowing deliveries.

The TCat is out cuddle monster. 18 pounds of aggressive enforces purring. Figured it was more unique than a red tesla on a tesla forum
Actually it would pretty much be the same pack as the CT3. I also think many CT3 res holders will get first crack at the plaid, so their wait times could only improve.

I am in the CT2 camp myself, hoping to move up a year or 2 if they built it first. I am just not seeing it.
 

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Actually it would pretty much be the same pack as the CT3. I also think many CT3 res holders will get first crack at the plaid, so their wait times could only improve.

I am in the CT2 camp myself, hoping to move up a year or 2 if they built it first. I am just not seeing it.
This is why I think the rumor of dual motor trucks coming first makes piles of sense. They can make 50% more trucks with same supply of cells.

 

 
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