another Elon interview [closed due to politics]

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Just another Elon interview, still listening

 

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Twitter comments make the point that Elon’s offer was based upon public figures released by Twitter. So if public filings contain false or misleading statements leading to inaccuracies which detrimental reliance amounts to fraud, as in bait and switch. The company MVP, tweeters who tweet, in reality do not exist if those tweets are not hiuman. Definitely Elon has a point that needs addressed to validate a later legal standing.
 

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There's no way for Twitter to produce better numbers instantaneously. The accuracy of the numbers are something that's always being worked on, and at the same time, spammers are always trying to evade detection.



Elon really doesn't sound like he knows how this works. It's really disappointing.

-Crissa
 

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There's no way for Twitter to produce better numbers instantaneously. The accuracy of the numbers are something that's always being worked on, and at the same time, spammers are always trying to evade detection.



Elon really doesn't sound like he knows how this works. It's really disappointing.

-Crissa
He doesn’t need to know. He need only know that the 5% Twitter publicly published as spambots is what is priced into his Twiiter offer.

Detrimental reliance term of art in legal parlance Elon is establishing what exactly Twitter has included. If dynamic % spambots are not included in their published 5% figure, then Elon pursuit in discovery is legitimate fiduciary responsibility to establish that error.

Parag Agrawal tweet response is non-sensical IMHO juxtaposed with Twitter’s published figure. Elon simply needs to know what time it is, not how a watch works to be able to discern time, at all.

Thus how many bots? How many human tweeters? Elon is pricing Twitter MVP as human eyeballs. Since humans can only be securitized, marketed and incentivized.
 

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But it's not non-sensical. It's why they only have an estimate, and are always trying to remove spam.

The number of bots would always be changing. And it's very difficult to tell the difference between a human who just participates in spam and a bot who does.

My spouse specifically works on this for her company, and even has a patent around it. And I have been on the internet actively for almost thirty years... and I have a tendency to look for patterns.

-Crissa
 


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But it's not non-sensical
It totally makes no sense. In light of the Twitter convention it introduced named “Verified” twitter accounts. Verified accounts directly addressed spambots so that Twitter could provide authentication that the account was real as in ’real human’ was registered and “Real” legal named behind the account.

Its non-sensical that Twitter doesn’t, er won’t stand behind their system with actual statistics real named, verified users. For networks sake, Twitter can’t run its own bots across the tweeterverse to authenticate headers .vs. machine volume headers? QoS would be my priority in delivering service alone rather than a firehose of headers that clogs up my platform.

It simply strikes me a non-sensical that CEO wants to rest the laurels of his platform on seemingly to him an unknown.
 

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It totally makes no sense. In light of the Twitter convention it introduced named “Verified” twitter accounts. Verified accounts directly addressed spambots so that Twitter could provide authentication that the account was real as in ’real human’ was registered and “Real” legal named behind the account.
Verified accounts have nothing to do with spam.

They're accounts of identified celebrities and companies - so that users can know they're not talking to a fake or satire.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that had anything to do with spam.

-Crissa
 

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Clearly people will be going to jail.

You can't take over a platform and use it to push your political agenda by supporting all your ideas with false affirmatives. And conversely, denigrating the opponent using the same means.


All the while, maintaining and increasing profitability by doctoring the numbers, and have your income solely based on that figure.

And then, increasing share value on a false premise. And Duping investors.

Even worse, syphen profits into lawyer and consultant fees, only to return as political donations.

It could be all true. Maybe Elon does play 3D chess.
 

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Clearly people will be going to jail.

You can't take over a platform and use it to push your political agenda by supporting all your ideas with false affirmatives. And conversely, denigrating the opponent using the same means.

All the while, maintaining and increasing profitability by doctoring the numbers, and have your income solely based on that figure.

And then, increasing share value on a false premise. And Duping investors.

Even worse, syphen profits into lawyer and consultant fees, only to return as political donations.

It could be all true. Maybe Elon does play 3D chess.
Yeah, probably shouldn't listen to scam-artists that cling themselves to wealth and power.

There is no evidence of any bias against right-wing sources here. In fact, the only bias seen so far is actually the other way, allowing political and and verified accounts on the right say and do things which net other users restrictions and bans.

There's no way moderation will ever catch all instances of harassment or spam. It's always a moving target. And much of the spam and bots are... Humans, abusing the system and each other.

-Crissa
 


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I regret posting that.
 

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Verified accounts have nothing to do with spam.

They're accounts of identified celebrities and companies - so that users can know they're not talking to a fake or satire.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that had anything to do with spam.

-Crissa
@Crissa advocating in a court of law that estimate counts are representative with sample sizing that number in the 100’s for publicly published figure of 5% total planet-wide user base on Twitter are in fact irrelevant to the monies involved and people investing such sums.

As a project manager building multi-million dollar projects there is no legal fiduciary on the planet that would accept a million dollar investment on 100 random surveyed accounts to validate the value of a transaction. It is in fact total non-sense to argue to a fiduciary, lawyer or judge that your estimate verifies and validates the investment of Billions.

That’s why EM is seeding this field of discovery, performing a due diligence and announcing the fact that he is doing-so under legal duress of non-disclosure. Well, inquiring investor’s need to know, have a right to withdraw support in the absence of verifiable information and Twitter can burden the buyer with validating the facts which are not in Twitter’s possession it would appear - unbelievably.

SO the ball of estimates you and Twitter are so fond of playing for public entertainment is losing air; falling flat in-play for real money and the buyer is sincerely expressing his interest in establishing the transaction value even under NDA scrutiny. It’s verification and validation in software idioms which is surely not the first you’ve heard of the concept.

You are witness to the discipline an EM ownership would bring to Twitter, twitter users and fiduciary interests in Twitter in probabilistic assessment zero-knowledge proofs, authentication protocols and privacy schemes to statistically validate the number of spambots and spam messages rather than simple counts to score estimates.
 

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You are witness to the discipline an EM ownership would bring to Twitter, twitter users and fiduciary interests in Twitter in probabilistic assessment zero-knowledge proofs, authentication protocols and privacy schemes to statistically validate the number of spambots and spam messages rather than simple counts to score estimates.
Yes, I am seeing a guy who's losing grip with reality, politics, and doesn't know how social media even works.

Twitter gains and bans thousands of accounts every day. It's almost like he doesn't know this. Or how expensive it would be to try to verify every account is operated by a human without the desire to spam.

Lastly, his demand for this metric today violates his agreement - he should just hand over the billion dollars now. The number of accounts that are spam is not a metric that the SEC cares about, and Elon asked to not do any due diligence beyond legally required. This situation is his fault.

-Crissa

 
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