Chevy Silverado EV RST functionality (tailgate, rear window, midgate, range, HUD) blows away Cybertruck

[scottf200]

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Chevy Silverado EV RST functionality

• bed adjust length,
• tailgate opening options,
• removeable and storable rear window,
• midgate lets you care 10+ feet items "inside"
• ~400+ range,
• HUD display,
• electric rear view mirror!,

... blows away Cybertruck

Title: The Longest Range Electric Truck in the WORLD... and its not even close!

The new Chevy Silverado EV RST is the new long range Electric Truck KING. With an advertised range of 440 miles. Today we find out how realistic that range actually is with a 440 mile road trip from Las Vegas Nevada to Phoenix Arizona.

Watch Dan's video HERE. <-- this one was pretty entertaining!

Ambient temperature outside during this test was a rainy 68 degrees F (20C) There is about 1000ft of elevation drop between Las Vegas and Phoenix. 95% of the time we were going the speed limit on public roads (55mph to 75mph) - except for the dirt road diversion to film and do the truck walkaround.

Similar to Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT charging curve (source link)& performance?

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[bongulous]

Cool. Still going with the Cybertruck.

 

[HellsNels]

That’s nice with the foldable wall between cabin and bed. Not possible in CT i would think due to where the tonneau is stored.

 

[kpanda17]

great to see, USA designing and making a very functional truck
think the Silverado is a knockout of the Lightning and a def threat to the ICEv 150
amazing
CT will still attract the unique buyer, dont think that they compete
just saying

 

[kpanda17]

That’s nice with the foldable wall between cabin and bed. Not possible in CT i would think due to where the tonneau is stored.

mid wall changes could be ontrack for CT in its gen 2 version 2026+

 

[Tech-Savvy]

So the battery was at 8% and they were charging to 100% it was 9:33 and it said it would finish by 11:10, time for a nap I guess!

 

[scottf200]

think the Silverado is a knockout of the Lightning and a def threat to the ICEv 150

Do not forget about the in-progress
Ford T3 "Trust the Truck" is the rallying cry for the development teams working on Ford's next-generation electric pickup truck, Project T3, which is expected to be released in 2025.
That is "designed" and will be built in BlueOval TN (and BlueOval KY batteries ?).

Great interview:
Title: Ford CEO Jim Farley On Electrification and Tennessee's BlueOval City

I visit the future home of Ford's BlueOval City, a $6 billion manufacturing plant that will produce electric vehicle batteries and Ford's next-generation electric pickup truck, codenamed the T3.

BlueOval City is scheduled to begin production in 2025 and will have the capacity to produce 500,000 vehicles and 43 GWh of batteries annually. I also had the opportunity to sit down with Ford's CEO, Jim Farley, to discuss BlueOval City as well as details of Ford's future electrification plans.

Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:16 Touring BlueOval City in Stanton, Tennessee
05:18 Interview with Ford CEO, Jim Farley
07:14 Why did Ford choose Tennessee for BlueOval City?
08:47 What about LFP batteries?
10:05 Has Ford moved beyond the supply chain issues of 2022?
12:40 How important is it for Ford to control its own battery supply?
14:10 How will Ford deal with battery mineral sourcing?
15:29 The future of solid-state batteries and affordable electric vehicles
16:43 Ford's next-generation electric truck codenamed the T3
17:59 Outro

 

[FutureTruck]

As a Tesla shareholder and CT enjoyer I am disappointed that CHEVY of all companies appears to have made a more capable vehicle by range of metrics, usability, and versatility.
No steer by wire and the Silverado looks like a regular ugly truck, but the stat sheet is better than the CT and that is disapointing.

 

[kpanda17]

As a Tesla shareholder and CT enjoyer I am disappointed that CHEVY of all companies appears to have made a more capable vehicle by range of metrics, usability, and versatility.
No steer by wire and the Silverado looks like a regular ugly truck, but the stat sheet is better than the CT and that is disapointing.

but I think the target buyer is diff, at least for CT gen 1
work truck buyer, traditional PU buyer Lightning, SilveradoEV, RAMEV
unique vehicle buyer, Cybertruck, R1T
SilveradoEV spec sheet definitely raises the bar and CT gen 2 will be forced to do and be more
Lightning/T3 and RAMEV have to meet and exceed the SilveradoEV
R1T now has to adj to the CT, SilveradoEV and coming T3 and RAMEV
great competition making great EVPUs
will level out in a few years like the current gen of ICEv PUs

 

[peebs]

As a Tesla shareholder and CT enjoyer I am disappointed that CHEVY of all companies appears to have made a more capable vehicle by range of metrics, usability, and versatility.
No steer by wire and the Silverado looks like a regular ugly truck, but the stat sheet is better than the CT and that is disapointing.

I agree in a way: silverado has the two main things I wanted in the CT: longer range and midgate. However, there is one very large strike against it: It weights 8577 lbs vs the CT 6603lb thats ~2000 pounds more. I don't want an 8500lb vehicle.

The more ideal car for me is if they ever make it would be a cyberSUV/minivan that has more covered rear space when you remove or fold the rear seats. Waiting for some modest improvements in 4680 chemistry might have to be enough for me range wise.

 

[FutureTruck]

Agreed, the CT at least in the current form is a mix between a sports car and a minivan/hatchback. Ton of fun to drive, some utility, experimenting into the truck category.
For people that need a truck the CT does not really fit the bill until Tesla refreshes it with additional range and functionality.
Tesla was smart though, there are a lot more moms that buy vehicles to go to Costco than there are people who use trucks for work so they went after the mass market and by making it fast and sporty also hooked some people like myself who just want a fun 3rd or 4th vehicle for the weekend.
I think the next version of the CT may be a real EV truck contender but the competition will also have had time to up their game too.

 

[Cyber Man]

Don’t forget that Silverado will take more than 50% charge time compared to CT’s. It’s fun to talk about range until someone mentions charging time and battery size. Silverado batteries are 200+ KW, which is almost double that of CT. I love that Silverado has detachable rear windows. That feature is a huge plus compared to CT’s, but the battery size and charge time are deal breakers. What’s the point of 400 mile range when you have to wait for two hours for every pit stop during a road trip?!

 

[carsly]

Agreed, the CT at least in the current form is a mix between a sports car and a minivan/hatchback. Ton of fun to drive, some utility, experimenting into the truck category.

I'd offer Tesla covered this space - cross between a sports car and a hatchback - in 2013 with the release of the Model S. I've got a Plaid and it's got a very roomy hatchback that's more practical than most mid-sized and full-sized sedans with rear folding seats it can hold a bike with ease. I've put my summer wheels and tires in there just a couple of wheels ago for my seasonal changeover - all four fit without issue. And we already know about the vicious acceleration.

The minivan Tesla is the one with the minivan style touching door handles - the Model X.

The CT isn't really either of those things. It's certainly not a sports car - way too heavy and bulky - it's more a Ford F-150 Raptor or Ram TRX pumped up lifestyle pickup that wins as much on design as it does horsepower and ferocity off the line. It's just the design went in a wildly different direction than mega fender flares, snouts, spoilers, air dams, ridges, etc.

 

[scottf200]

Don’t forget that Silverado will take more than 50% charge time compared to CT’s. It’s fun to talk about range until someone mentions charging time and battery size. Silverado batteries are 200+ KW, which is almost double that of CT. I love that Silverado has detachable rear windows. That feature is a huge plus compared to CT’s, but the battery size and charge time are deal breakers. What’s the point of 400 mile range when you have to wait for two hours for every pit stop during a road trip?!

400+ mile range is a significant part of the actual driving day. ie. start at 100% charging overnight (ie. set departure time feature ... like was in my first 2011 Chevy Volt from day 1 so certainly in this RST).

Also depends the use case and perhaps you can just charge over lunch at 250+ kW (350 kW max)? We have seen a few charging examples now (Kyle and now Dan's)

Or 10 minutes at a couple bathroom and snack breaks.

Similar to Chevrolet Silverado EV 4WT charging curve (source link)& performance?

Here two real world examples of a roadtrips I took where my Stay-to-Stay (day-to-day) distance is show. Many people roadtrip < 400 miles per day. Or take lunch, or 10 minute breaks

 

[tbuck]

I think many people are looking at trucks as a one-size-fits-all solution. They really aren't. There is a reason Ford has so many trim levels and why you rarely see Lariat, King Ranch, Platinum, Limited, or even XLT on most (or any) job sites - cost.

From Ford's own customer research, 80%-85% of Ford F-150 buyers are leisure drivers. The pickup is a convenience vehicle that provides versatility, space, and comfort. Most will never go beyond a gravel or dirt road once in a while and very few will be used as a work truck.

The Chevy Silverado EV out now is not sold to consumers, just to fleets. It has a massive 230 KWh or so battery and has a flat 350 KW charging curve. It is made to be an electric work truck with the largest battery version selling for $70k-$80K giving it a full 230 KWh and about 400+ miles of range. The trade off is that the inside is basically a work truck and missing many of the nice things most drivers want. It can tow heavy loads 200 miles, but is not an off-road vehicle.

The new Silverado, when it is finally released, looks more like a pure work truck.

Want something more traditional and leans toward the leisure space? Get an F-150 Lighting.

Want to break away from the traditional, but want a more conservative and traditional look - Rivian may be the one for you.

If that is what you want, than go for it!

For me, I have driven an F-150 Lariat for 24 years (yes, the same one). I have towed with it, been on search and rescue missions with it, traveled all over the country with it , been camping (still do) with it, and used it as my daily commuter. I am one of those 80%-85% of people that like the versatility of the truck, but also the comfort of a nice car. I also like new and different things. So, for me, it is still the Cybertruck. It does everything I have ever used my F-150 for and then some while providing the comfort and uniqueness I prefer.

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