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What do you drive now? A 2500?
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It seems like most posted info is targeted to be the best. Since payload did not meet originally announced specs but still better than other BEV trucks, range may not meet the original 500 but beat Silverado on paper.
another way to look at the same reasoning:

payload and towing are listed for a reason

other things aren’t listed for a reason

personally, I think they’re just dripping out info that doesn’t need to be managed (one way or the other)
 

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Ok we’ve given it 10 pages

can someone please

“bUt ThE WEbsITe sTIlL SaYS…”
”But they PROMISED! I’m suing for breach of contract!”
 

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I have one of those hammers in my car to use in case my car goes in the water and I need to escape.

How does that work with shatter proof windows?
It doesn’t. Those types of devices are made to shatter tempered glass which most autos use for all windows apart from the windshield (which is laminated glass). Some “higher end” cars are using tempered glass for windows for noise reduction, Tesla included.
The 2019 unveil glass which broke during the ball bearing test behaved exactly like laminated glass does when stuck. Tempered glass would have shattered.

If you end up in the water stuck in your CT you’ll have to hope it is water tight and/or the FD can get there quickly and is able to get you out.
 


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another way to look at the same reasoning:

payload and towing are listed for a reason

other things aren’t listed for a reason

personally, I think they’re just dripping out info that doesn’t need to be managed (one way or the other)
I agree that there is a distinction on what they want to share at the event and outside of it. What is more interesting to me about the "listed" info is how Tesla chose to communicate this information to 1-2 million reservation holders after four years of waiting; through a third hand post on a forum. Did they lose our email address?
 

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some here would plug their ears and wait for Elon to whisper it into the nape of their neck
Zuckerberg? When’s the match with Elon and Zucky? I bet Elon will have some sweet nothings to whisper into Zucky’s neck nape.
 

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I’d say given the skyrocketing RV sales industry and that there is an entire market segment of 1/2 ton towing 5th wheels that it’s not a 1% case. It’s actually a popular growing segment per the RVIA as a 8k lb bumper pull is a lot to manage but a 8k lb 5th wheel is dead stable thanks to where the weight is put and near complete elimination of sway. Ability to get into tight parks. And cost.

But the point was by changing the form factor, they eliminated a lot of direct cross over. They reduced addressable market by trying to change the truck. If I am evaluating replacement trucks and I own a camper or a 5th wheel or a horse trailer, they immediately disqualified themselves from the list. If I am a contractor and I had a substantive investment in toolboxes and stuff, I can’t just lift it out of my F-150 and put it in a Cybertruck. I suspect that was a tactical mistake on the part of Tesla. Unless all they wanted to really build was a truck for people who want to own a truck but don’t use a truck as a truck often. Which is actually a great use case, but don’t expect a lot of market overlap with the other EV trucks.
I would be interested to see TRUE stats and data on this part of the discussion.. how many people who own F150 size trucks or bigger in the whole US, use it for what more than the cybertruck will offer? For me, it is absolutely perfect for what I need. The ability to tow a boat or cargo trailer rarely and mainly have cargo space for fun trips with the family (almost SUVish with the ability of a truck bed). I am not towing big 5th wheels often or ever. How many of the 100 thousands yearly are like me or like my true truck brethren?
 


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The Cybertruck is not going to blow the Ford F150 out of the water, as fan boys have hyped.
The CT will be a great ELECTRIC vehicle that happens to look funky and can be a pickup.
Ford will still sell a lot of trucks. The Cybertruck will probably take a sliver each out of Ram, GMC and Ford pickup sales. But certainly not wipe them out.
Tesla won’t but as things stand, Ford, GM and RAM are going to blow themselves out of the water unless they can get their costs down.
 
 




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