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I see your point. Think of all the annoying people who know everything about the CT and never have experienced one. The irony is there are a lot of people on this site who get mad at the biased CT hate, but then do the same thing for the Lighting. I'm not sure if it is funny or sad.

Truth is, both are excellent trucks.
My friend, you are comparing apples and oranges here, once you get past the fact that they both have 4 wheels, a cab and a bed, that's where the similarity ends. The F-150 Lightning has about as much in common with the Cybertruck as a chicken has with a pheasant.
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Literally you're doing what called 'trust me, bro,' with that 'it's obvious!'

The Cybertruck both is shorter to the cabin floor and has a deeper bed than the Lightning. It also lowers itself for entry.

So no, once you think about it for more than a 'trust me, bro,' it's not obvious.


It's a feature that Tesla has demonstrated, and the self-leveling can do it. That it's not currently available is surprising, honestly. Doesn't the tow mode raise and lower it?

-Crissa
admittedly I didn’t even think to try that . Maybe because I hate the truck in entry or low for that matter. Went out and gave it a shot. I’m 5’9” so as it was better and I didn’t need to 1 knee then up it was still a little bit of a stretch to get my leg up there. I will def be setting in low when working out of the back now though. I’m just going to go out on a lim and say they didn’t add a step because the bumper is plastic , really wish they did though
 

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How did you do it Hauling?
Removed the aluminum trim strip at the top, saw two gaps in the foam strip where the water was leaking into the bed, plucked some extra foam strip off each end and stuck them in the gaps. Replaced aluminum trim strip (it compresses the foam seal). Done. No more leaks.
 

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Removed the aluminum trim strip at the top, saw two gaps in the foam strip where the water was leaking into the bed, plucked some extra foam strip off each end and stuck them in the gaps. Replaced aluminum trim strip (it compresses the foam seal). Done. No more leaks.
Any video you used to do this? lol. Sounds confusing.
 

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admittedly I didn’t even think to try that . Maybe because I hate the truck in entry or low for that matter. Went out and gave it a shot. I’m 5’9” so as it was better and I didn’t need to 1 knee then up it was still a little bit of a stretch to get my leg up there. I will def be setting in low when working out of the back now though. I’m just going to go out on a lim and say they didn’t add a step because the bumper is plastic , really wish they did though
The bumper is metal, the bumper cover is plastic, but it's supported by the metal underneath. I step on it whenever it will make it easier. That's why it's there!
 


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Any video you used to do this? lol. Sounds confusing.
A video might help you understand how the aluminum trim strip is installed and removed, but I don't have a link if that's what you mean. I really don't like instructional videos because they take too long to explain too little. You can Google a video or check out the Cybertruck Service manual that has most Cybertruck assembly/dissasembly procedure detailed. It's the strip at the rear edge of the glass roof. Once you have it off, take a look at how it works, and it should all become clear. The foam strip should run the width of the truck, mine had two gaps in it where the water was dripping in that I filled in with excess foam strip, a pinch from each end.

That was 5 months ago, no leaks since.
 

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The bumper is metal, the bumper cover is plastic, but it's supported by the metal underneath. I step on it whenever it will make it easier. That's why it's there!
lol are you being cheeky ? I’m aware the bumper has “steel reinforcement” under the plastic and I can step on it . however the Actual bumper is plastic. For them to do a bumper with a step most likely it would need to turn into a complete steel bumper like other rucks have

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This thread has been the siren call for all those who are still butt hurt about the pricing.
If you want to pay more for the truck, you're welcome to.

But don't come grumbling that the 1% that can afford the truck is spent through.

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This is trollbait.

No, Tesla drivers don't 'crash more' in apples to apples statistics.

No, Tesla is not unusual in having plastic bumpers - most trucks today have plastic bumpers.

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There are many key Supercharger locations than no Ford Lightning can use.

The charging curve is currently similar, but only in kW/hour, not in miles (of charge) per hour. With the rollout of 1000V Ver. 4 Superchargers, the 400 Volt battery architecture of the Lighting will not be able to take advantage of the faster speeds. Cybertrucks' 800V architecture can (and will). It already does on the few Superchargers that have 1000V capability.


Only dumbasses drive through floods with their family in the car.
You seem unaware that floods can be dynamic. Have you ever experienced a flash flood? I have. Also, sometimes it's necessary in times of disaster to leave threatened areas (to avoid greater danger). Sometimes you just want to get to the other side safely (and the Cybertruck can do that safely in a larger number of more demanding situations).

Basically, the Cybertruck has more capability to get you and your family to safety, or to get them safely where they want to go, in all kinds of situations, from storm-downed trees to ravines caused by flooding or the wasteland in the days/weeks following the breech of a dam. Earthquakes can buckle the very road you are driving on, and they can remain unrepaired for weeks as crews have to prioritize repairs when damage is widespread.

No matter the situation, it must be appraised for safety and the lack of ground clearance and off-road capability of the Lightning is not what I would want to work with. Never mind it's general fragility. The Lightning has considerably less off-road/disaster capability than my Ford F-150 XLT ICE 4x4, which in turn has ca lot less off-road/disaster capability compared to my Cybertruck. And I mean a lot less! That could be the difference between life and death.

Teslas drivers actually crash more than any other brand of vehicle. Wonder why?
Don't be so gullible, Cars made by Tesla have a much lower accident rate per million miles travelled than the entire fleet of registered cars. You are getting suckered into a "study" designed to create negative headlines by measuring the accident rate of drivers renting a Tesla, typically only for one to three days when the car is still unfamiliar to them. This happens to varying degrees with all brands of cars. Tesla cars crash less, not more.

Plenty of stuff on the Cybertruck is steel that will corrode - like the entire cab weldment; rotors and spindles; fasteners and brackets and ball joints in the suspension and steering; trailer hitch mount; door interior skin, latches and hinges ... In 20 years, maybe I will worry about frame rust.
Tesla was smart and used more corrosion resistant alloys in the most exposed areas. Sure, the cabin passenger cage is made of high strength steel, but it is away from road salts and most water. It is not a rust concern in a legacy vehicle either because it's just not that exposed to the road and weather.

The alloy of stainless used was tested by Tesla to have more corrosion resistance than 316 marine grade stainless. And you are incorrect about the inner door panels rusting, they will never rust because they are also made from stainless steel that has been laser welded to the outer panels. The door inners are gleaming stainless, you can see them in all their glory when you open any door, which makes me think that not only do you not own a Cybertruck, you are not even familiar with what they are moade of and how they are engineered.


And the Cybertruck has plenty of plastic fenders, bumpers, and other trim that are the first things to get damaged, same as any modern car.
The plastic fenders are very cheap and easy to replace, should they ever become damaged. Tesla sells them direct to motorists, cheaper even than plastic parts from legacy automakers. Tesla doesn't squeeze you on parts like dealerships do. However, I was talking about actual body damage, the stuff that can cost thousands of dollars for even a relatively minor repair. The Lightning is just as fragile and susceptible to dents and dings from things like baseballs, shopping carts, golf balls, bicycles, skateboards, bats, hurricane blown debris, construction supplies, rocks and branches, etc. as my 2010 F-150 XLT is. The Lightning is no more damage resistant than any F-150. F-150's are not tough, that's just misleading marketing ad copy.

Those types of items just bounce off my Cybertruck with zero damage. Cybertruck is actually tough, it's not just marketing fluff.

I can see you will not change your mind, even when given the facts, but I mostly wanted to set the record straight on some of your uninformed statements.
 

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lol are you being cheeky ? I’m aware the bumper has “steel reinforcement” under the plastic and I can step on it . however the Actual bumper is plastic. For them to do a bumper with a step most likely it would need to turn into a complete steel bumper like other rucks have

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I'm not being cheeky, and you missed my point because the Tesla bumper is a step. And the plastic cover is not the bumper, it's called a bumper cover in the parts catalogue. The bumper is the metal under the plastic bumper cover.
 

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The sail rises up. This isn't "trust me bro", it's really obvious. Why do you have some impression that the CT is just as easy to access the bed from the back or sides than other trucks? I don't think anyone that didn't have a lifted truck would say that or has said that.
Really? You have never heard me say that my bone stock 2010 F-150 XLT 4x4 is too high to get anything meaningful out of the bed with my 6'-04" tall body?

I've only said it about 15 times and it's absolutely true (unless I'm parked right up to a curb or loading dock). I just don't see a difference in useability between these two truck bed formats based on the height of the bed sides. Because that's not how trucks get loaded and unloaded.

I do see a difference in that the Cybertruck bed doesn't have those pesky wheel wells intruding into the load area. I can roll large firewood rounds straight in, without having to maneuver them around the wheel wells. Super slick to load and unload.

I unloaded this entire load without getting in the bed once (until I was done and wanted to sweep it out):

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That's a payload of 2400 lbs. My F-150 never loaded and unloaded this easily. Nor did it drive normally with such a heavy load. The Cybertruck drove like it was just another day going to the beach, I could barely tell I had a load at all!
 

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Wait, the bed of your Cybertruck leaks and you decided not to fix the leak?

It's quick and easy to fix, I did mine in 15 minutes with no materials. Dry as a bone (and it rains a ton out here).

I'm surprised you can reach over the bed sides of your Lightning (in any meaningful way), it must have a lot less ground clearance than my 2010 F-150 XLT 4x4. I keep a slip sheet of thin foam in the bottom of my bed of all my trucks. Everything goes on top of that. When unloading, I unload everything I can reach, and then just pull the foam slipsheet towards me and all my stuff comes out to the tailgate for easy access.

Even a tall person like me hasn't been unloading anything substantial from the side of the bed on any 4x4 truck I know of in the last 20 years. They are not El Caminos! Sure, I can grab lighter items out over the side rails, particularly if the item is standing up a bit, and near the side of the bed, but I can do that on the Cybertruck too. Larger, heavier items? That a no-go on either truck.

Do you know why some versions of the Lightning are only 60% the price of the AWD Cybertruck? Ford would ask more if people thought they were worth more, but not many people think they are worth more. You know Ford loses money on every Lightning they sell. They are selling them for as much as they can get, that's why they are so cheap.
I didn't realize the mark of a quality vehicle was the ability to easily fix its flaws. I never was put in a position with my Lightning where I needed to fix leaks...

I am not a Tesla or Ford shareholders. I don't care about how much money they make on each vehicle or how many vehicles they sell, I care only about how much the vehicle costs me. If one company is subsidizing my cost, that's a good thing, right?
 
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