Cyberlandr, back to the drawing board ?

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https://electrek.co/2021/12/09/high...ing-money-astronomical-400-million-valuation/

Just 2 days ago, talk about raising $400 million.

If this new video truly depicts the latest Cybertruck, their design is down the gurgler.
Yes, with the bed overhang spotted on the test mule this bed camper will need a redesign. Since it looks like a cab to bed pass through now exists I would be more than happy throwing a $500 IKEA foam mattress in the vault and sleeping like a baby for hunting trips out of state.
 

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Great idea in making a quick buck with those reservation money and possibly not having anything in return. I'm sure it says in there that it might not go into production. Maybe I should have thought of this for 50 million!

Love the video in that unfinished garage lol
 

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That's why you don't invest in a concept of a product that is fully dependent upon a product that doesn't even have a confirmed production design/specs. Talk about uncontrollable risks. They are at the whim of Tesla as a business.

Doesn't matter how much they have invested if they can't achieve what they claim to, all that money goes poof.

Besides that irrationality, never understood why so many are obsessed with the cyberlandr (and for that matter, wraps as well) to begin with.
 
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I don't know where the certainty comes from theres a passthru. I hope there will be one, but its not at all as easy to do as it seems. Firstly the rear seat has to be fairly thin so it can collapse on the floor before the "midgate" can fold forwards. Then because of the "z" shape of the midgate the passthru will not be level and flat with the bed but will have a step. Plus there's the whole vault cover pathway issue. Also the rear glass can't slide into the midgate either because of the z shape.
 


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A small travel trailer costs a fraction of the Cyberlandr, and can be towed by anything with an appropriately rated trailer hitch.

Something like the Taxa Habitat likely addresses the same need for less money and with more flexibility:
https://taxaoutdoors.com/

(I peersonally own a No Boundaries trailer. It's simple, sized correctly for my family, and made out of modern materials -- even if I wish it were smaller.)

Different trips work better with different designs, so the more the merrier.

The Cyberlandr looks like the nichiest of niche designs, but I wish them luck.

P.S. If I had Cyberlandr's valuation cap, I'd just buy Taxa and ask them to figure out how to put a Taxa TigerMoth-derived design in a pickup bed.
 
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https://electrek.co/2021/12/09/high...ing-money-astronomical-400-million-valuation/

Just 2 days ago, talk about raising $400 million.

If this new video truly depicts the latest Cybertruck, their design is down the gurgler.
I feel for those guys. I am sure that it was on their list of concerns. Maybe they can design around it.

As many of you know I have been playing around with the ROCC concept. (Roll over cab camper) These design changes don't really affect my design too much, uless the overall length changes drastically. I was expecting room for 4 with (2 being kids) or 3 with 1 adult playing footsies with the other 2, but taking 8" out might make all the difference. I just wish Tesla would release the dimensions and interface points to 3rd party so they could design away. I don't think Tesla should be in the accessories business.
 

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A towed unit doesn't have the same legal or useful features as a stowed unit. Trailers are rarely used for surfing shacks because there isn't trailer parking at most pull-outs. Trailers hit alot of limits, not the least of which is the hit on maneuverability... there's hits to range as well.

The over-hang was always know about, but they'll come up with a concept. Their plan is a pop-up shack, which it its own use case.

-Crissa
 

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If I were a betting man, I’d wager CT will have a 5-5.5 bed option (pictured recently) and a 6.5 full bed option. With like a 5k price tag.

think of the ford line up.

if not, I’m not sure CT will take off like we all envisioned.
 

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If I were a betting man, I’d wager CT will have a 5-5.5 bed option (pictured recently) and a 6.5 full bed option. With like a 5k price tag.
This has not been pictured recently.

We don't know the dimensions of the truck from those photos close enough to measure inches.

-Crissa
 


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A towed unit doesn't have the same legal or useful features as a stowed unit. Trailers are rarely used for surfing shacks because there isn't trailer parking at most pull-outs. Trailers hit alot of limits, not the least of which is the hit on maneuverability... there's hits to range as well.

The over-hang was always know about, but they'll come up with a concept. Their plan is a pop-up shack, which it its own use case.

-Crissa
Surfing is a niche market, as far as RVs go.

Niche campers are a good thing, of course, but being able to hit a couple of those niches doesn't make a $400 million (valuation) business.

The Cyberlandr going through the same design iterations that every engineer who's owned a pickup truck has gone through -- just with more money and more publicity.

They aren't the first people to think of a folding truck camper, and fold-up features are common in existing RV designs. The problem isn't nobody's thought of this -- the problem is making it work in a weatherproof and affordable way.

Building a sealed box out of fiberplastic sheets ("Azdel") is really hard to beat when you consider weatherproofing, longevity, and daily usability. It's also boring AF, but sometimes the boring solutions are the ones to beat.

I really hope the Cyberlandr succeeds, because campers should come in all shapes and sizes so that they can be matched to all kinds of needs -- but I believe a lot of the excitement over the Cyberlandr, in particular, is misguided.
 

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If I were a betting man, I’d wager CT will have a 5-5.5 bed option (pictured recently) and a 6.5 full bed option. With like a 5k price tag.

think of the ford line up.

if not, I’m not sure CT will take off like we all envisioned.
Tesla will not have different bed length options for at least four years. And, considering they will be able to sell as many as they can produce for years to come, why would they? If you know anything about manufacturing and keeping quality high and prices low it's a game of volume. How many units can you make of the same thing. The only reason legacy auto offers so many models and variations is because they want/need more demand.
 

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Tesla will not have different bed length options for at least four years. And, considering they will be able to sell as many as they can produce for years to come, why would they? If you know anything about manufacturing and keeping quality high and prices low it's a game of volume. How many units can you make of the same thing. The only reason legacy auto offers so many models and variations is because they want/need more demand.
I don't think they ever will make a larger bed with a 4 door. There is also the cybervan which will satisfy a lot of people and then the wolverine if the reduced size and 4ws hasn't reduced the requirement to make that.

I would like to see the stats, but the 5.5 and 6.5 beds are way more popular than a full size bed. Maybe tesla could do a 2 door extended cab with a full size bed on the same wheelbase.
 

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This has not been pictured recently.

We don't know the dimensions of the truck from those photos close enough to measure inches.

-Crissa
Edit:

I downloaded an app and assumed it that the truck has TRD tires on it, which are 30 inch diameter. The bed measures 60 inches, give or take using this app.

If the tire is bigger it would mean the bed is bigger, it is also at a slight angle. I also don't know if the shrouding is cutting off any of the bed.

Screenshot_20211212-130717_Ruler.jpg
 
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