Cyberlandr news?

[Crissa]

I have my product development hat on.

If Cyberlandr wants to build a business selling campers, they should build a business selling campers.

They don't have to wait for the Cybertruck to be released to build their business.

Except they do, since that's what they based their business upon.

You can't just rush into another production.

-Crissa

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[MEWoodsMFG]

Anyone else get this Cyberlandr update email?
https://cyberlandr.substack.com/p/c...INKBmLBY&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

[MEWoodsMFG]

The overhang and narrower bed of the production Cybertruck will doom this before it starts. It never was practical to begin with but those changes are going to be hard to overcome.

Prepare to eat thy words.
https://cyberlandr.substack.com/p/c...INKBmLBY&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

[MEWoodsMFG]

There are several orders of magnitude more GMC Sierras on the road with tonneau covers installed than Cybertrucks.

There is a couple of orders of mangnitude more Rivian R1Ts.with factory integrated roll-up tonneau covers out there than there are Cybertrucks.

The total addressable market for a Cyberlandr on a conventional truck is *much* bigger than the Cybertruck market, at least today.

I hope this changes, of course, and the Cybertruck is wildly popular -- because replacing inefficient pickup trucks with EVs is a good thing for all involved. But Tesla's Cybertruck sales taking off hasn't happened yet. Hopefully Tesla can make the most of their 4th-mover advantage in the EV pickup space.

Anyway, the point is that Cyberlandr could be a post-revenue startup, if they were agile enough and motivated enough to do so. And they'd be smart to target multiple pickup trucks.

Still cheering for Tesla and the Cybertruck, of course. I just don't put Tesla up on a pedestal anymore.

Think of the shape of the bed in your GMC, with the lower sidewalls and the internal wheel wells...how in the hell do you expect a Cyberlandr to fold into that?
Cyberlandr may make a camper to fit a more conventional truck bed someday, but the design will need to be drastically different.

 

[Luke42]

Think of the shape of the bed in your GMC, with the lower sidewalls and the internal wheel wells...how in the hell do you expect a Cyberlandr to fold into that?
Cyberlandr may make a camper to fit a more conventional truck bed someday, but the design will need to be drastically different.

I work in product design, and I'm familiar with making products fit into other products. Making that work is actual work.

What you're missing is that having a business sitting around not selling anything is how you lose money. It's anti-profitable behavior.

The question is why Cyberlandr company would be OK with anti-profitable behavior. There are a variety of possible explanations. I've avoided speculating about those explanations so far because I'm trying to be polite.

 

[MEWoodsMFG]

I work in product design, and I'm familiar with making products fit into other products. Making that work is actual work.

What you're missing is that having a business sitting around not selling anything is how you lose money. It's anti-profitable behavior.

The question is why Cyberlandr company would be OK with anti-profitable behavior. There are a variety of possible explanations. I've avoided speculating about those explanations so far because I'm trying to be polite.

This is their first product of this type. It's sort of how Tesla started with just the Roadster and not two, or three, or several models at the same time.

The company is also a successful facial recognition software company, so Cyberlandr isn't the only iron they have in the fire to generate income.
Like Tesla, they had to design the product, then revise and refine it, all with the goal being able to manufacture the product at scale.
I'm not so sure trying to design and prototype two (or more) very different versions of a product at the same time would have been the best idea from a business standpoint, but hey I only own a small manufacturing company, so what do I know?
Remember they were starting from scratch with no factory or staff, so it's not as if they were sitting on their hands this whole time.

I get what you are saying about all of the other more conventional trucks on the road that are potentially sales opportunities, but keep in mind that the founders of this company were only inspired to produce a product like this when the Cybertruck was first introduced.
The design of the Cybertruck made possible the whole concept of the entire camper disappearing into the vault with no disruption of aero dynamics to minimize the impact on range.

Yes, there are more trucks with conventionally shaped beds, but there's also already a zillion companies making a zillion conventional campers to fit into those conventional beds.
Without the unique shape of the Cybertruck vault, the Cyberlandr would just be another pop-up truck camper and there's already a ton of competition in that space.

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