Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action!

[Diehard]

I love how the tire is all, "Wait for me! Wait for me!"

That tire definitely had some grudge against the poor soul. After punching him in the face, it came back and kicked him in the behind.

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[FutureBoy]

That tire definitely had some grudge against the poor soul. After punching him in the face, it came back and kicked him in the behind.

Most tires be like, "Hey! That crack in the pavement hurt!!! You dented my rim! Now I'm losing air pressure."

That tire was like, "Leave me alone you evil pickup! Hey SUV.... Wanna go for a ride? Ahhhh! I knew you would fall head of heels for me! Wait, wait, let me catch up! Silly SUV... Why you making me bounce like that?"

 

[CyberGus]

That gives me an idea... What if you attach a screen as large as the tailgate to the tailgate and stream the view of the front camera on it. Essentially letting the vehicle behind you see what you the driver can see. Gives them a bit of a heads up as to what is coming. Although, some might say that they didn't see my vehicle at all because all they saw was the vehicle in front of me.

 

[anionic1]

Two things.

Seeing the recent images makes me really wonder where tesla is going to store all that battery pack to get to a 500 mile range. I actually think they are going to abandon that longer range. maybe 400 max. With the structural pack idea sort of clamped between two castings i think the options they have are a single or double layer of batteries to keep the upper and lower pack diaphragms working. I was watching the video of Franz getting in the truck with his kids and it looks like there is basically no depression from the door sill to the interior floor so it could be 8" thick currently from the floor which is the tope of the structural pack to the guard underneath. So it looks like they could fit two 4680 cells deep in that space between the castings without having to go under the bed. So basically two 80-100kwh packs stacked and you probably get close to 500 mi similar to the silverado.

Next, has there been any confirmation of the tailgate ramp? I am betting that will be an add option just because its definitely a lot of weight and outside 99% of peoples needs. A couple things are interesting on the tailgate. I did notice in the recent videos that there was some additional slack in the support cable making me think that maybe it will drop lower for a ramp. And the addition of the actuator to auto open and close makes me think that the weight of the tailgate was even more than a torsion spring could reasonably handle. An auto tailgate is definitely fancy and IMO one more thing to eventually fail and for me to tell my kids to stop playing with. For pricing, I definitely don't like seeing them add cute stuff like this if its not necessary. I am happy to close my tailgate if its counterbalanced appropriately. I hope that opener is an add options as well.

At first I though the design of the plastic bumper under the stainless looked a little off but now I can see they basically created a step to make it easier to get in the vault which I really can appreciate.

 

[Diehard]

Two things.

Seeing the recent images makes me really wonder where tesla is going to store all that battery pack to get to a 500 mile range. I actually think they are going to abandon that longer range. maybe 400 max.

Elon has mentioned many times hauling extra battery you rarely use does not make much sense when you have access to superchargers. So you may be correct. However if challenging ICE trucks is really the goal here, availability (not as the only choice) of 500+ mile CT is a start. For someone like me that rarely tows anything let alone long distance, even my 240 mile truck may be enough (especially if I have access to superchargers). I enjoy better acceleration and higher payload due to having one of the lightest BEV trucks on the market but for someone that tows long distance frequently, especially in winter, even if they want a BEV bad, they won't take it seriously unless they have a healthy range and very fast charging. Even for those that travel long distance frequently without towing, they could recoup some of the cost of additional battery by charging cheap at both ends. Of course ultimately, the range issue has to be solved either by charging speed and availability or battery density improvement.

 

[anionic1]

Elon has mentioned many times hauling extra battery you rarely use does not make much sense when you have access to superchargers. So you may be correct. However if challenging ICE truck marker is really the goal here, availability (not as the only choice) of 500+ mile CT is a start. For someone like me that rarely tows anything let alone long distance, even my 240 mile truck may be enough (especially if I have access to superchargers). I enjoy better acceleration and higher payload due to having one of the lightest BEV truck on the market but for someone that tows long distance frequently, especially in winter, even if they want a BEV bad, they won't take it seriously unless they have a healthy range and very fast charging. Even for those that travel long distance frequently without towing, they could recoup some of the cost of additional battery by charging cheap at both ends. Of course ultimately, the range issue has to be solved either by charging speed and availability or battery density improvement.

I have an engineering degree so you can believe I totally get not hauling around extra battery. I have also mastered solar so I can get a lot of free electricity in sunny california. So in my book. Yes, more battery is less efficient but I will mostly be getting the energy for free around my daily driving. I have a you g family and I hate road trips because I don’t like the thought of showing my kids it’s ok to burn hundreds of gallons of gas for our pleasure and I really want the CT to take our family on trips in a green way. So I really would like that 500 mi range to make the most out of our trips.

 

[Stuck4ger]

That gives me an idea... What if you attach a screen as large as the tailgate to the tailgate and stream the view of the front camera on it. Essentially letting the vehicle behind you see what you the driver can see. Gives them a bit of a heads up as to what is coming. Although, some might say that they didn't see my vehicle at all because all they saw was the vehicle in front of me.

I did a Halloween costume like that. I made a vest with an iPad on my chest (display facing forward) and one on my back (rear camera facing rearward). Rugby shirt over the top with a big bloody looking hole in front that the iPad display shone through, and a small hole in the back for the camera to see out. It looked like a cannon ball had passed through me.

 

[FutureBoy]

I did a Halloween costume like that. I made a vest with an iPad on my chest (display facing forward) and one on my back (rear camera facing rearward). Rugby shirt over the top with a big bloody looking hole in front that the iPad display shone through, and a small hole in the back for the camera to see out. It looked like a cannon ball had passed through me.

Sounds like a great costume!!

Most people don't seem to use their rear view mirror so we don't really need to a screen on the front. I can imagine someone looking out the rear view mirror and getting quite a surprise though. Talk about objects being closer than they appear.

 

[ÆCIII]

That would also be my first guess as well, but seeing what Ford has included in their 'Pro Power' (panel), I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla also did something comparable.

. . .​

Back to this Cybertruck Prototype - there is more room for an extended layout of additional receptacles in the flat area where the empty hole is located, and it would be very easy for Tesla to change that layout any time they wanted.

Actually, I may do a quick design of a triangular shaped recess flange panel with NEMA devices that would likely fit in that area, and then post it here just for kicks. Might take a couple days or more, need to fit it in my schedule.

Let's hope Tesla will offer something like Ford's 'Pro Power', or if not, at least a two phase 240volt outlet with an adapter accessory maybe. Either way, it's not a 'deal breaker' for me, but some buyers may be stuck on that feature.

- ÆCIII

Some renderings below, of a form factor I was thinking of, to mount receptacles in the Cybertruck, comparable to the F-150 Pro Power complement (vault/bed receptacles only).

However, this may not be possible as there are many unknowns to us 'armchair' fans out here. Cannot see what's behind/inside the vault inner walls and surfaces, so internal casting structures might conflict with available space.

Size and scale are not verified accurate by any means, due to photo shopping onto images and challenges inherent to that method. Good for presenting concepts though, for subsequent accurate modeling and feasibility testing. However I attempted to guess the size as best I could, with the L-Track intervals being understood to be 1 inch, and the 110volt outlet protrusions measuring 2 5/8" from top edge to bottom edge. Some areas may be close to accurate, but some areas are also likely distorted.

I am assuming any inverters for such circuits are located near the battery management system or with other power conversion components, and not inside the vault walls. Depending on inverter current capacity, additional outlets may be installed in the cab or other locations.

A similar form factor recessed opening mounted in the other side of the vault, could possibly be adapted for compressed air connections. We still do not know for certain if Tesla intends to make some features or accessories accessible from sail pillars on the outside, but we haven't seen any evidence recently.

These are only photo shopped renderings as without actual access to the truck or geometry, it's not possible to design anything with production intent.

- ÆCIII

 

[Crissa]

I can see the love there! I'd like some status lights. Tesla doesn't, but it's nice to know there's power flowing through them or they're off when they should be. And you'd also want double weatherization; nothing more annoying than getting sand in your plugs (I know. I have an all-electric camp set-up.)

-Crissa

 

[charliemagpie]

Nice work

 

[cvalue13]

Some renderings below, of a form factor I was thinking of, to mount receptacles in the Cybertruck, comparable to the F-150 Pro Power complement (vault/bed receptacles only).

However, this may not be possible as there are many unknowns to us 'armchair' fans out here. Cannot see what's behind/inside the vault inner walls and surfaces, so internal casting structures might conflict with available space.

Size and scale are not verified accurate by any means, due to photo shopping onto images and challenges inherent to that method. Good for presenting concepts though, for subsequent accurate modeling and feasibility testing. However I attempted to guess the size as best I could, with the L-Track intervals being understood to be 1 inch, and the 110volt outlet protrusions measuring 2 5/8" from top edge to bottom edge. Some areas may be close to accurate, but some areas are also likely distorted.

I am assuming any inverters for such circuits are located near the battery management system or with other power conversion components, and not inside the vault walls. Depending on inverter current capacity, additional outlets may be installed in the cab or other locations.

A similar form factor recessed opening mounted in the other side of the vault, could possibly be adapted for compressed air connections. We still do not know for certain if Tesla intends to make some features or accessories accessible from sail pillars on the outside, but we haven't seen any evidence recently.

These are only photo shopped renderings as without actual access to the truck or geometry, it's not possible to design anything with production intent.

- ÆCIII

Great work. GREAT work.

and if they chase the lightning approach, this would be it

If Tesla took a more minimalist approach, aided by better software:

Most people need no more than a triple gang 2X 120v + 240v

For the relatively few people needling eg 4X 120v outlets at once (in the bed), you also offer an accessory inverter that plugs into the 240v providing 2X more 120v - leaving very little use case capabilities of the Lightning - if any - that the CT couldn’t match. Or a creative gang of outlets (see final picture below).

But for the majority of folks, a clean tripple-gang cluster (2x 120v - 1X 240v) would be a standardized approach to CT mass production, with fewer parts and lower cost, but covering >90% of use cases.

And I think with not much design application it could elegantly fit in a panel this size (assuming that’s even the production panel)

 

[John K]

For those sleeping in the vault, type C connection will be helpful.

For my demographic, does not matter as much since we will be relaxing in the hot tub at the hotel.

 

[rlhamil]

BTW, do we think this 120v 15amp or did they go all out with 20amp. [ /s ]

US 20A outlets have the large slot shaped like a sideways "T". That lets a 15A or smaller plug fit, but also a 20A plug (where the large end is perpendicular rather than parallel to the small end). So that's only a 15A outlet, max.

 

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