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So I should sacrifice bed space for a job site in order to have a spare tire?
Yes. You really want to unload a couple tons of gear to get to the tire? If you go somewhere you need spares, put them on the tail or over the tonneau. That way you can get to them easily and back on the trail/work.

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I hope they use good weatherstripping or gaskets. One of the things I hated about my Ram w/ Rambox living in a dusty area is that it was poorly sealed. Boxes were cool for stuff you didn't mind getting dirty, but if you wanted stuff to stay clean the cabin was the only safe place. That's even with a hard tonneau.
There's no safe place if you go somewhere truly dusty or sandy. I had to strip out some of the carpet to get the mud out from last year's trip.

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Flat tires are a LOT more common on construction sites than they are on the highway. Contractors will want a spare.
My point exactly.
Granted I operate what most would call a large fleet of trucks but we have flats that require an entirely new tire several times a month. I dont the exact figure because have a fleet account that includes whatever needed to keep rubber on the vehicles.

There are a myriad of hazards to truck tires and especially with contractors they are more predictable but less avoidable
 

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Rivian for comparison.
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No spare option.
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Wow I didn't realize that is where the Rivian's spare tire went. That is horribly inconvenient if your bed is carrying a load when you get a flat; I can also see that gigantic trap door disagreeing with alot of aftermarket tonneau covers.... the only thing more inconvenient would be to not have a spare tire because you wanted the extra storage lol.
 

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Yes. You really want to unload a couple tons of gear to get to the tire? If you go somewhere you need spares, put them on the tail or over the tonneau. That way you can get to them easily and back on the trail.


There's no safe place if you go somewhere truly dusty or sandy. I had to strip out some of the carpet to get the mud out from last year's trip.

-Crissa
I absolutely do not want a tire under the load floor like a rivian and I hoped it wouldn’t be there.
I want it under the truck, where every other truck I own has one.
 

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So I should sacrifice bed space for a job site in order to have a spare tire?
Engineering is about making choices. You are free to make choices as well.

There is zero chance a spare can be kept underneath an EV with a "skateboard" design.
 


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There are several issues with big tires.
A) can the average guy change it
B) will the truck follow the Tesla concept of calling for a tire change, not doing it yourself
C) are there easily identifiable hard points under the truck and a jack, and is the process user friendly
D) Rather than believing that a working man's truck should always allow him to change a tire, look at bigger trucks. Drivers never touch those tires, a service truck goes out to do the job.
Gimme front and rear access to the hitch rail.. and a jack that plugs into it.. then you can lift both front wheels or both rear wheels from the existing trailer hitch setup 8)

I am lazy that way
 

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Just a couple of alternate ideas for the spare
Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action! 1687809596554

Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action! 1687809724152

Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action! 1687809869446

Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action! 1687809932083


My favorite . Smart spare that can be summoned
Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck vault sub-trunk fully opened! + Tonneau cover and tailgate lowering in action! 1687810152445
 

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Engineering is about making choices. You are free to make choices as well.

There is zero chance a spare can be kept underneath an EV with a "skateboard" design.
are we sure that battery back goes the entire length of the skateboard... that is one LONG truck.. it would be fairly easy to leave a 3-4' section of the back NOT loaded with batteries but part of the skateboard.. then you could put a tire in that little compartment... or at least that is my thoughts on this.

personally i have to ask.. does ANY tesla have a spare tire currently? I believe the answer to that is no they have a tire repair kit <fix a flat and a can of air> since the CT has a compressor.. all we would need with it is the fix a flat.
 

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How often have you had a flat requiring roadside swap?

Honestly curious, cause in my 25+ years driving, I have had to do that exactly zero times. But I do know someone who seems to have a flat every 4 months, but I chalk that up to her driving way too fast on pot hole ridden streets without making any effort to avoid the potholes, on a benz with low profile tires. I drive the same streets and make an effort to avoid barreling straight through the same potholes at speed on ridgeline A/T truck tires and don't seem to have come close to getting a flat.

I just think that on big chunky truck tires, driving even on crappy roads for a decent chunk of long distance road trips, the likelihood of needing to swap a flat on the side of the road is pretty damn low.

But It would be nice to have a spare, just like every car on earth has.
 


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My point exactly.
Granted I operate what most would call a large fleet of trucks but we have flats that require an entirely new tire several times a month. I dont the exact figure because have a fleet account that includes whatever needed to keep rubber on the vehicles.

There are a myriad of hazards to truck tires and especially with contractors they are more predictable but less avoidable
Makes you want to throw the damned roofers into the burn barrel doesn't it? 🤣
 

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How often have you had a flat requiring roadside swap?

Honestly curious, cause in my 25+ years driving, I have had to do that exactly zero times. But I do know someone who seems to have a flat every 4 months, but I chalk that up to her driving way too fast on pot hole ridden streets without making any effort to avoid the potholes, on a benz with low profile tires. I drive the same streets and make an effort to avoid barreling straight through the same potholes at speed on ridgeline A/T truck tires and don't seem to have come close to getting a flat.

I just think that on big chunky truck tires, driving even on crappy roads for a decent chunk of long distance road trips, the likelihood of needing to swap a flat on the side of the road is pretty damn low.

But It would be nice to have a spare, just like every car on earth has.
I started driving in 1978 and have driven junkers a good part of the time, a lot of that time on a shoe string budget... so .. in short i have swapped tires on the roadside quite a few times... On my old Neon I did it so often <over 2 decades of car ownership> that the last time i had to do it.. it was under ten minutes from putting it in park beside the road to putting it in drive and taking off...

however in the last ten years i haven't had to at all.. <higher income replace tires when they MIGHT need it instead of when they DO need it>
 

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are we sure that battery back goes the entire length of the skateboard... that is one LONG truck.. it would be fairly easy to leave a 3-4' section of the back NOT loaded with batteries but part of the skateboard.. then you could put a tire in that little compartment... or at least that is my thoughts on this.

personally i have to ask.. does ANY tesla have a spare tire currently? I believe the answer to that is no they have a tire repair kit <fix a flat and a can of air> since the CT has a compressor.. all we would need with it is the fix a flat.
None of Tesla's consumer vehicles include a spare (semi = ??).

The skateboard doesn't make storage underneath impossible, but ICE vehicles have much more wiggle room due to all the eccentric equipment underneath like exhaust pipes, drive shafts, differentials, gas tanks, etc.
 

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Gimme front and rear access to the hitch rail.. and a jack that plugs into it.. then you can lift both front wheels or both rear wheels from the existing trailer hitch setup 8)

I am lazy that way
Add a bit of power behind that, do the lifting with the Kubota skid steer or Bobcat, and that's definitely starting to get civilized
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