Cybertruck VIN Tracking Thread (Updated 11/19/23)

[Jhodgesatmb]

Here is a more in depth discussion of Tesla VINs generally:

How To Identify A Tesla's Origin: Check Out The 2023 Model Year VIN Decoder (insideevs.com)

We aren’t seeing full VINs on Cybertrucks are we? I would expect Cybertruck VINs to include more drivetrain options for example, and to describe the Release Candidate options.

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[cvalue13]

We aren’t seeing full VINs on Cybertrucks are we? I would expect Cybertruck VINs to include more drivetrain options for example, and to describe the Release Candidate options.

we're seeing only the portion of the VIN that is the unique to a specific unit, its serial number, which is serialized to production order (as well as pre-production stage of validation)

that said, much of the remaining VIN is already known to us without needing to see it, as follows:

Digits 1-3: obvious/known meaning (even if we don't yet have the alphanumeric)​

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Digit 4: almost certainly the letter 'C' (presently, Digit 4 is either S, 3, X, or Y, for obvious reasons​

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Digit 5: obvious/known meaning (it's a truck)​

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Digit 7: obvious/known (will be an 'E' for electric)​

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Digit 9: irrelevant (this is the federal 'check digit' - a random code to protect against false VINs)​

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Digit 10: obvious/known (this will be the letter correlated with the 2024 model year)​

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Digit 11: obvious/known (this will be an 'A' for Austin)​

That leaves us with Digit 6 (seatbelt configuration) and Digit 8 (motor/drive configuration).

However, seeing those digits alone wont tell us anything about the vehicle, until we are able to separately correlate the known digits to a known configuration. E.g., even if we saw the letter 'G' here we wouldn't yet know if that stood for dual or tri motor, etc.


All-in-all, when it comes to "seeing the VIN," these last 3 digits being spied on the units pretty much tells us everything we currently care to know based on merely seeing the digits alone.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

we're seeing only the portion of the VIN that is the unique to a specific unit, its serial number, which is serialized to production order (as well as pre-production stage of validation)

that said, much of the remaining VIN is already known to us without needing to see it, as follows:

Digits 1-3: obvious/known meaning (even if we don't yet have the alphanumeric)​

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Digit 4: almost certainly the letter 'C' (presently, Digit 4 is either S, 3, X, or Y, for obvious reasons​

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Digit 5: obvious/known meaning (it's a truck)​

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Digit 7: obvious/known (will be an 'E' for electric)​

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Digit 9: irrelevant (this is the federal 'check digit' - a random code to protect against false VINs)​

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Digit 10: obvious/known (this will be the letter correlated with the 2024 model year)​

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Digit 11: obvious/known (this will be an 'A' for Austin)​

That leaves us with Digit 6 (seatbelt configuration) and Digit 8 (motor/drive configuration).

However, seeing those digits alone wont tell us anything about the vehicle, until we are able to separately correlate the known digits to a known configuration. E.g., even if we saw the letter 'G' here we wouldn't yet know if that stood for dual or tri motor, etc.


All-in-all, when it comes to "seeing the VIN," these last 3 digits being spied on the units pretty much tells us everything we currently care to know based on merely seeing the digits alone.

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I am likely not the only person on this forum that would like to know what Digit 8 value a particular RC or Production unit is, and the Model Y VIN breakdown doesn't even cover Tri-Motor and Quad-Motor variants. I more or less agree with you. I was just thinking that this VIN legend doesn't tell us much (ok, it doesn't tell us anything) about the Release Candidate numbering. So as much as many of the digits may be obvious, an entire VIN would perhaps be above discussion altogether.

 

[cvalue13]

I am likely not the only person on this forum that would like to know what Digit 8 value a particular RC or Production unit is

I'm sorry, I guess I'm not following

because in truth, you don't want to know what Digit 8 is (e.g., a letter 'G'), you want to know what Digit 8 correlates with (e.g., that letter 'G' correlates with dual motor)

I'm just pionting out that seeing digit 8 alone will not tell us anything about what that digit stands for. not until we can both see that digit AND confirm the drive configuration of that unit, will we come to know what the specific digit 8 alphanumeric stands for

so yes, we'd all like to know how many motors these have. but seeing digit 8 alone will not tell us that.

I was just thinking that this VIN legend doesn't tell us much (ok, it doesn't tell us anything) about the Release Candidate numbering.

no, the legend alone does not

it's me confirming for you what is in my original post regarding the final 6 serialized numbers:

• as a company-wide matter, beta-series start with a 'B' and RCs start with an 'R' in the sixth position of the serial
• regarding the CT in particular, they've batch-identified Betas beginning with a '5' in the third position, and for RCs (so far) they've batch-identified with a '6' in the third position

regarding the RCs 'so far', the meaning of the numbers going forward will be a bit fact dependent on if/when we no longer see a '6', e.g.:

if we see a '695' and a few days later a '702' then it is most likely they have made 102 RC1 units

if instead we see a '670,' but a few days later we see an '804' then it is unlikely that we've simply missed 130 units, and instead most likely they have re-batched for another validation step advance, e.g., from RC1 to RC2 builds

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I'm sorry, I guess I'm not following

because in truth, you don't want to know what Digit 8 is (e.g., a letter 'G'), you want to know what Digit 8 correlates with (e.g., that letter 'G' correlates with dual motor)

I'm just pionting out that seeing digit 8 alone will not tell us anything about what that digit stands for. not until we can both see that digit AND confirm the drive configuration of that unit, will we come to know what the specific digit 8 alphanumeric stands for

so yes, we'd all like to know how many motors these have. but seeing digit 8 alone will not tell us that.



no, the legend alone does not

it's me confirming for you what is in my original post regarding the final 6 serialized numbers:

• as a company-wide matter, beta-series start with a 'B' and RCs start with an 'R' in the sixth position of the serial
• regarding the CT in particular, they've batch-identified Betas beginning with a '5' in the third position, and for RCs (so far) they've batch-identified with a '6' in the third position

regarding the RCs 'so far', the meaning of the numbers going forward will be a bit fact dependent on if/when we no longer see a '6', e.g.:

if we see a '695' and a few days later a '702' then it is most likely they have made 102 RC1 units

if instead we see a '670,' but a few days later we see an '804' then it is unlikely that we've simply missed 130 units, and instead most likely they have re-batched for another validation step advance, e.g., from RC1 to RC2 builds

Oh. Thanks.

 

[cvalue13]

8/23 shows unit # R00674 - so a minimum of 74 completed RCs to date

 

[batlag]

Seems like we're seeing some 7XX Vins now, yeah? This post mentions it. What do y'all make of it? Just that it's an RC 6XX and they've built more than 100?

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ks-recovery-points-fog-lights-9-11-2023.9256/

 

[cvalue13]

Seems like we're seeing some 7XX Vins now, yeah? This post mentions it. What do y'all make of it? Just that it's an RC 6XX and they've built more than 100?

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ks-recovery-points-fog-lights-9-11-2023.9256/

I fell off in keeping up this tally!

but highest number seen to date (9/5) is 724

Over in this thread I gave my views of the roll from 6XX to 7XX

My *educated* view in short: they built ~98 dual motor RCs (6XX) with grey interiors, then transitioned to tri-motor builds (7XX) with white trim interiors.

I would not expect them to build as many tri-motors because much of general validation can be done on dual-motor builds, with a handful of tri’s needed to validate only tri-specific differences. 724 (or not much more) may be the highest 7XX we see

the slow-down in CTs over the past week suggests to me they’re mostly done building RCs (done only partially on the high-volume line) and may soon be moving to manufacturing confirmation builds (done entirely on the high volume line).

~two weeks ago there was talk on xwitter of the GFTX “production” lines being shut down for build-out of the lines - but CTs were still pumping out. Consistent with the high volume CT line possibly being shut down for additions, but the low volume RC line still finishing a backlog of partial HV line builds.

but now this past ~week only a couple of RCs have been spotted in the lots. as of today there are still a couple of 7XX RC builds cruising around GFTX. which suggests the low volume line is winding down and finishing its last few builds, while the high volume line is still receiving its updates. Consistent with prep for transitioning from RC1s to RC2/MCs once the HV line is ready to print it’s first test unit.

RC2s/MCs, when they start, would be the series of builds that would be used for insider deliveries

Accordingly, we might be on the lookout for eg 8XX builds (though they could also jump batch numbers to 9XX)

 

[batlag]

I fell off in keeping up this tally!

but highest number seen to date (9/5) is 724

Over in this thread I gave my views of the roll from 6XX to 7XX

My *educated* view in short: they built ~98 dual motor RCs (6XX) with grey interiors, then transitioned to tri-motor builds (7XX) with white trim interiors.

I would not expect them to build as many tri-motors because much of general validation can be done on dual-motor builds, with a handful of tri’s needed to validate only tri-specific differences. 724 (or not much more) may be the highest 7XX we see

the slow-down in CTs over the past week suggests to me they’re mostly done building RCs (done only partially on the high-volume line) and may soon be moving to manufacturing confirmation builds (done entirely on the high volume line).

~two weeks ago there was talk on xwitter of the GFTX “production” lines being shut down for build-out of the lines - but CTs were still pumping out. Consistent with the high volume CT line possibly being shut down for additions, but the low volume RC line still finishing a backlog of partial HV line builds.

but now this past ~week only a couple of RCs have been spotted in the lots. as of today there are still a couple of 7XX RC builds cruising around GFTX. which suggests the low volume line is winding down and finishing its last few builds, while the high volume line is still receiving its updates. Consistent with prep for transitioning from RC1s to RC2/MCs once the HV line is ready to print it’s first test unit.

RC2s/MCs, when they start, would be the series of builds that would be used for insider deliveries

Accordingly, we might be on the lookout for eg 8XX builds (though they could also jump batch numbers to 9XX)

Phenomenal insights!! Thanks for the wisdom. I’m going to keep following this if you happen to see more/find out more as we go.

 

[cvalue13]

since @newwave1331 dug up the deets, thought these posts worth repeating on this VIN tracking thread

Reposting in full below, with a bit of a re-org, but the links are here and here

But a few notes of context:

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• note the build blend to date: 207 duals to 19 tri/performance​

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• the 5-series betas aren’t shown below (should be about 60 of those)​

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• the 6- and 7- series are RCs (duals and tris, respectively) per OP here​

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• the 8s and 9s are MCs​

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• we should watch for “F” or “S” series vins soon (would be delivery event builds), though they may just keep in the production series with the MCs​

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“I ran vins in the 600s and 800s on NHTSA recall website and found that they go all the way up to 906. All 800-900s are 2024 dual motor H-Rated. I haven't been able to break the 5 series … yet. Let us know if you break it on of the other series.

207 verified so far.

600 Series [all dual, H-rated]
7G2CEHEDXPAR00600
7G2CEHED1PAR00601
7G2CEHED3PAR00602
7G2CEHED5PAR00603
7G2CEHED7PAR00604
7G2CEHED9PAR00605
7G2CEHED0PAR00606
7G2CEHED2PAR00607
7G2CEHED4PAR00608
7G2CEHED6PAR00609
7G2CEHED2PAR00610
7G2CEHED4PAR00611
7G2CEHED6PAR00612
7G2CEHED8PAR00613
7G2CEHEDXPAR00614
7G2CEHED1PAR00615
7G2CEHED3PAR00616
7G2CEHED5PAR00617
7G2CEHED7PAR00618
7G2CEHED9PAR00619
7G2CEHED5PAR00620
7G2CEHED7PAR00621
7G2CEHED9PAR00622
7G2CEHED0PAR00623
7G2CEHED2PAR00624
7G2CEHED4PAR00625
7G2CEHED6PAR00626
7G2CEHED8PAR00627
7G2CEHEDXPAR00628
7G2CEHED1PAR00629
7G2CEHED8PAR00630
7G2CEHEDXPAR00631
7G2CEHED1PAR00632
7G2CEHED3PAR00633
7G2CEHED5PAR00634
7G2CEHED7PAR00635
7G2CEHED9PAR00636
7G2CEHED0PAR00637
7G2CEHED2PAR00638
7G2CEHED4PAR00639
7G2CEHED0PAR00640
7G2CEHED2PAR00641
7G2CEHED4PAR00642
7G2CEHED6PAR00643
7G2CEHED8PAR00644
7G2CEHEDXPAR00645
7G2CEHED1PAR00646
7G2CEHED3PAR00647
7G2CEHED5PAR00648
7G2CEHED7PAR00649
7G2CEHED3PAR00650
7G2CEHED5PAR00651
7G2CEHED7PAR00652
7G2CEHED9PAR00653
7G2CEHED0PAR00654
7G2CEHED2PAR00655
7G2CEHED4PAR00656
7G2CEHED6PAR00657
7G2CEHED8PAR00658
7G2CEHEDXPAR00659
7G2CEHED6PAR00660
7G2CEHED8PAR00661
7G2CEHEDXPAR00662
7G2CEHED1PAR00663
7G2CEHED3PAR00664
7G2CEHED5PAR00665
7G2CEHED7PAR00666
7G2CEHED9PAR00667
7G2CEHED0PAR00668
7G2CEHED2PAR00669
7G2CEHED9PAR00670
7G2CEHED0PAR00671
7G2CEHED2PAR00672
7G2CEHED4PAR00673
7G2CEHED6PAR00674
7G2CEHED8PAR00675
7G2CEHEDXPAR00676
7G2CEHED1PAR00677
7G2CEHED3PAR00678
7G2CEHED5PAR00679
7G2CEHED1PAR00680
7G2CEHED3PAR00681
7G2CEHED5PAR00682
7G2CEHED7PAR00683
7G2CEHED9PAR00684
7G2CEHED0PAR00685
7G2CEHED2PAR00686
7G2CEHED4PAR00687
7G2CEHED6PAR00688
7G2CEHED8PAR00689
7G2CEHED4PAR00690
7G2CEHED6PAR00691
7G2CEHED8PAR00692
7G2CEHEDXPAR00693
7G2CEHED1PAR00694
7G2CEHED3PAR00695
7G2CEHED5PAR00696
7G2CEHED7PAR00697
7G2CEHED9PAR00698
7G2CEHED0PAR00699


700s (705-724). all 2023 Tri-Motor H-Rated

7G2CEHEE1PAR00705
7G2CEHEE3PAR00706
7G2CEHEE5PAR00707
7G2CEHEE7PAR00708
7G2CEHEE9PAR00709
7G2CEHEE5PAR00710
7G2CEHEE5PAR00710
7G2CEHEE7PAR00711
7G2CEHEE9PAR00712
7G2CEHEE0PAR00713
7G2CEHEE2PAR00714
7G2CEHEE4PAR00715
7G2CEHEE6PAR00716
7G2CEHEE8PAR00717
7G2CEHEEXPAR00718
7G2CEHEE1PAR00719
7G2CEHEE8PAR00720
7G2CEHEEXPAR00721
7G2CEHEE1PAR00722
7G2CEHEE3PAR00723
7G2CEHEE5PAR00724

800s [all dual H-rates]
7G2CEHED8RA000801
7G2CEHEDXRA000802
7G2CEHED1RA000803
7G2CEHED3RA000804
7G2CEHED5RA000805
7G2CEHED7RA000806
7G2CEHED9RA000807
7G2CEHED0RA000808
7G2CEHED2RA000809
7G2CEHED9RA000810
7G2CEHED0RA000811
7G2CEHED2RA000812
7G2CEHED4RA000813
7G2CEHED6RA000814
7G2CEHED8RA000815
7G2CEHEDXRA000816
7G2CEHED1RA000817
7G2CEHED3RA000818
7G2CEHED5RA000819
7G2CEHED1RA000820
7G2CEHED3RA000821
7G2CEHED5RA000822
7G2CEHED7RA000823
7G2CEHED9RA000824
7G2CEHED0RA000825
7G2CEHED2RA000826
7G2CEHED4RA000827
7G2CEHED6RA000828
7G2CEHED8RA000829
7G2CEHED4RA000830
7G2CEHED6RA000831
7G2CEHED8RA000832
7G2CEHEDXRA000833
7G2CEHED1RA000834
7G2CEHED3RA000835
7G2CEHED5RA000836
7G2CEHED7RA000837
7G2CEHED9RA000838
7G2CEHED0RA000839
7G2CEHED7RA000840
7G2CEHED9RA000841
7G2CEHED0RA000842
7G2CEHED2RA000843
7G2CEHED4RA000844
7G2CEHED6RA000845
7G2CEHED8RA000846
7G2CEHEDXRA000847
7G2CEHED1RA000848
7G2CEHED3RA000849
7G2CEHEDXRA000850
7G2CEHED1RA000851
7G2CEHED3RA000852
7G2CEHED5RA000853
7G2CEHED7RA000854
7G2CEHED9RA000855
7G2CEHED0RA000856
7G2CEHED2RA000857
7G2CEHED4RA000858
7G2CEHED6RA000859
7G2CEHED2RA000860
7G2CEHED4RA000861
7G2CEHED6RA000862
7G2CEHED8RA000863
7G2CEHEDXRA000864
7G2CEHED1RA000865
7G2CEHED3RA000866
7G2CEHED5RA000867
7G2CEHED7RA000868
7G2CEHED9RA000869
7G2CEHED5RA000870
7G2CEHED7RA000871
7G2CEHED9RA000872
7G2CEHED0RA000873
7G2CEHED2RA000874
7G2CEHED4RA000875
7G2CEHED6RA000876
7G2CEHED8RA000877
7G2CEHEDXRA000878
7G2CEHED1RA000879
7G2CEHED2RA000870
7G2CEHED8RA000880
7G2CEHEDXRA000881
7G2CEHED1RA000882
7G2CEHED3RA000883
7G2CEHED5RA000884
7G2CEHED7RA000885
7G2CEHED9RA000886
7G2CEHED0RA000887
7G2CEHED2RA000888
7G2CEHED2RA000889
7G2CEHED0RA000890
7G2CEHED2RA000891
7G2CEHED4RA000892
7G2CEHED6RA000893
7G2CEHED8RA000894
7G2CEHEDXRA000895
7G2CEHED1RA000896
7G2CEHED3RA000897
7G2CEHED5RA000898
7G2CEHED7RA000899

900s [all dual H-rated]
7G2CEHEDXRA000900
7G2CEHED1RA000901
7G2CEHED3RA000902
7G2CEHED5RA000903
7G2CEHED7RA000904
7G2CEHED9RA000905
7G2CEHED0RA000906

 

[newwave1331]

7G2CEGED2RA000870

Take this out or put a strike through it. Idk how it got on my post but I dont want someone thinking there has 1 G-rated VIN for some special reason.

 

[cvalue13]

@newwave1331

for the 5-series, trying to determine what you’re needing to solve for on the site

I’d think it may go:

7G2CEHED?NFB005XX

- how are you solving for the check digit?
- possible that for the Betas the first three digits are 5YJ (previously S’s and 3’s )
- possible the year digit 10 is N or P
- possible the GVWR is G or H

other variables?

 

[greggertruck]

Sounding like we are zeroing now. Retail.

 

[cvalue13]

Sounding like we are zeroing now. Retail.

close.

still have to build those delivery event units

and I’m increasingly less sure the completely normal “retail” units will get delivered at all in 2024…

 

[newwave1331]

5YJCEHEDXNFB00501

That comes up unavailable. It will say 2024 Tesla Cybertruck if the vin is found.

- how are you solving for the check digit?

Find the source here

The robot tests are throwing a wrench in my flow otherwise I'd be running the program in my sleep.

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