CyberTruck Vs. Silverado EV - Reservations Open 1.5.2022

[Richard V.]

I got an e-mail today from GM (I own a 2015 Volt) saying this:

I am curious to see what it will be. I did reserve the time to see it on the 5th Jan 2022. However, I am bound to get a CT no matter what. Note that many years ago (2016-17) I had contacted GM to asked them about an electric truck, but it never got anywhere. Now they are seeing the light... very late in the game.

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[Mini2nut]

I will be watching simply out of curiosity. I do like that it’s a clean sheet of paper design and not just a converted ICE pickup like the Lightning. I may even place a deposit to hedge by bets in case revised Cybertruck pricing goes into the stratosphere. GM claims they will start production in Q1 of 2023.

 

[Ogre]

I just can’t unsee this. When I hear about the Silverado E and the GMC Denali, I see this.

GM is claiming a 400 mile range. To get there they are going to need something with nearly this capacity. This is their “State of the Art” Ultraman battery.

 

[Richard V.]

I just can’t unsee this. When I hear about the Silverado E and the GMC Denali, I see this.

GM is claiming a 400 mile range. To get there they are going to need something with nearly this capacity. This is their “State of the Art” Ultraman battery.

What is an Ultraman battery, is it for one of those toys' battery?

 

[Ogre]

What is an Ultraman battery, is it for one of those toys' battery?

If the battery does in fact transform into a giant robot, that would explain the size and would indeed make me more interested in GM’s product line. I’ll keep an eye on the Hummer reviews to see if there is a “Giant Robot” section.

 

[Richard V.]

If the battery does in fact transform into a giant robot, that would explain the size and would indeed make me more interested in GM’s product line. I’ll keep an eye on the Hummer reviews to see if there is a “Giant Robot” section.

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[John K]

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Backing out of this thread slowly

 

[Richard V.]

Backing out of this thread slowly

We got to be serious and light at the same time I believe. I am being serious most of the time.

 

[Ogre]

We got to be serious and light at the same time I believe. I am being serious most of the time.

Yes… this is why I can be light most of the time.

It’s a balance.

 

[Richard V.]

Yes… this is why I can be light most of the time.

It’s a balance.

Here is a sweet mellow place to be: Judy Garland Somewhere Over The Rainbow 1939 - YouTube

Cheers!

 

[Ogre]

My favorite version of that song.

Sadly Iz passed a couple years ago.

 

[Mini2nut]

“The heart of the Ultium system is a pouch-type lithium-ion cell, 23 x 4 x 0.4 inches in size, weighing about 3 pounds, with a gross energy capacity of 0.37 kWh. Each Ultium pack will have a usable capacity between 50 kWh (144 cells) and 200 kWh (576 cells), enabling up to 450 miles of range.

GM will produce Ultium cells in a joint venture with LG Chem at two new factories in Ohio and Tennessee. The plants are to come online by the end of 2023, with a combined capacity of 70 GWh worth of batteries per year, which Car and Driver estimates will be enough to power about 750,000 vehicles.

GM has been sourcing batteries (and many other components) from LG since the introduction of the Volt, and during this time both the size and chemistry of the cells have evolved considerably. The Ultium cell relies on a nickel-cobalt-manganese-aluminum chemistry, and requires 70 percent less cobalt than the cells used in the current Bolt EV.”

 

[Richard V.]

“The heart of the Ultium system is a pouch-type lithium-ion cell, 23 x 4 x 0.4 inches in size, weighing about 3 pounds, with a gross energy capacity of 0.37 kWh. Each Ultium pack will have a usable capacity between 50 kWh (144 cells) and 200 kWh (576 cells), enabling up to 450 miles of range.

GM will produce Ultium cells in a joint venture with LG Chem at two new factories in Ohio and Tennessee. The plants are to come online by the end of 2023, with a combined capacity of 70 GWh worth of batteries per year, which Car and Driver estimates will be enough to power about 750,000 vehicles.

GM has been sourcing batteries (and many other components) from LG since the introduction of the Volt, and during this time both the size and chemistry of the cells have evolved considerably. The Ultium cell relies on a nickel-cobalt-manganese-aluminum chemistry, and requires 70 percent less cobalt than the cells used in the current Bolt EV.”

Interesting, thank-you for the info. Progress is being made we hope. In the end I think it was Tesla that made them all move.

In the late 1980s I did sat and went for a ride in this very blue car for a ride and "invested" in it (30K+) for real. The car was to be built in Canada. A movie should be made about this saga. You should look it up. Amectran Canada UTube - YouTube
The big three were no friends at all.
More info here: Amectran Electric Car (amectranelectriccars.com)

Cheers!

 

[Ogre]

“The heart of the Ultium system is a pouch-type lithium-ion cell, 23 x 4 x 0.4 inches in size, weighing about 3 pounds, with a gross energy capacity of 0.37 kWh. Each Ultium pack will have a usable capacity between 50 kWh (144 cells) and 200 kWh (576 cells), enabling up to 450 miles of range.

This doesn’t follow. 3 pounds/ 0.37 kWh would be 540 pounds for a 200 kWh battery.

The number from GM is 3,000+ pounds for the Hummer battery.

I guess the extra 2500 pounds is module weight and battery frame?

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