Cybertruck's folding mid gate and roll-down rear window confirmed!

[Crissa]

I think we’ll have a 78” vault. Which solves for a lot. We’ll sort of 78”. Front wall slopes rearward so 78” at the bottom and a bit less at the top of the tailgate.

We all sort of?

-Crissa

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[SpaceYooper]

We all sort of?

-Crissa

No; we will sort of

 

[Ogre]

Autocorrect.

 

[Zapharus]

So I found another much better video of the potential midgate.
Sadly, it doesn't look like the window is was open from what I can tell.

There seems to be glass reflections where the window is meant to be on top of the midgate. It's clear and not tinted so harder to make out in these lighting conditions...

There is however a clear change in the design in the "midgate" bed wall, in that it appears the original Z shape is higher and stretched out, and there is now a small shelf under the window itself. The window also appears smaller. It also looks like the midgate wall angle extends straight to the bed floor. This "could" allow the window to fit when it slides down into it, however, it might require the window to tilt first and then slide down.

That would get rid of the problem of the window fitting into the midgate itself, meaning it could then fold down forwards into the cab. The little shelf would then become a load stop, potentially with some type of extra fold up panel so stuff doesn't go flying forwards into the cab.

Is this enough to prove there's a midgate? Not quite yet for me, but I'm still hoping.

Oh man, the way they parked it at the end was perfect to photograph/take video of the bed and see if there’s a midgate with the sun hitting for the camera to pick up more details. It does look like the rear window at least goes down. Somebody should’ve taken a mini drone with a camera to catch that.

 

[Zapharus]

Speaking of non truck buyers.. Did anyone else see the women hanging over the railing in front of the stage screaming and crying their eyes out like they were at a Beatles show in 1966? I laughed so hard. Also couldn't stop laughing about the screams and cheers from the crowd over talk of battery cells and manufacturing capacity and optimizations. No one in their right mind could have ever foreseen crowds losing their shit over such mundane talk before!! ?

EXACTLY!!! Cringey AF!! The cringe really went hard.

 

[RMK!]

I'm actually still hoping we get a proper fold up load stop on the tailgate if we don't get a complicated midgate that actually works.

The "load stop" is is an ideal aftermarket type product. No need to integrate this into the CT. All that powered, hinged, folding shit just complicates the build, adds cost, weight and impacts reliability. My guess, for the core truck Tesla will use the KISS principle along with the ever present first principle engineering.

 

[Ogre]

Oh man, the way they parked it at the end was perfect to impact the bed and see if there’s a midgate with the sun hitting for the camera to pick up more details. It does look like the rear window at least goes down. Somebody should’ve taken a mini drone with a camera to catch that.

I sure hope so, but looking at the funky rough edges I think it might have just been removed.

 

[JBee]

The "load stop" is is an ideal aftermarket type product. No need to integrate this into the CT. All that powered, hinged, folding shit just complicates the build, adds cost, weight and impacts reliability. My guess, for the core truck Tesla will use the KISS principle along with the ever present first principle engineering.

So after we pay for a CT we get a flat peice of Stainless Steel we still have to fold ourselves into a truck? Lol ;-)

KISS and first principles might be at odds with eachother though sometimes, and we need to first find the right questions to ask before we consider if the answers are also right.

I see the tailgate load stop as a safety device, one that should be implemented by the manufacturer if the intention is to allow customers to use the vehicle with the tailgate down. To be honest I think the load stop, and some sort of step to get into the bed, is way more practical and useful than the flimsy pull-out tailgate ramp. I don't mind if they keep it simple so long it stays functional and safe.

 

[Throwcomputer]

So after we pay for a CT we get a flat peice of Stainless Steel we still have to fold ourselves into a truck? Lol ;-)

KISS and first principles might be at odds with eachother though sometimes, and we need to first find the right questions to ask before we consider if the answers are also right.

I see the tailgate load stop as a safety device, one that should be implemented by the manufacturer if the intention is to allow customers to use the vehicle with the tailgate down. To be honest I think the load stop, and some sort of step to get into the bed, is way more practical and useful than the flimsy pull-out tailgate ramp. I don't mind if they keep it simple so long it stays functional and safe.

The tailgate ramp is questionable whether it's still remained a feature. It hasn't been seen since the initial reveal and the tailgate itself has changed quite a bit where the lid for the ramp doesn't look to be a lid that can open anymore. Also the bed is plastic now so we don't know if the tailgate inner wall is stainless still or just a plastic trim piece strong enough to support loads.

It's something I've been hoping to see another shot of in action cause it really has been absent since that one usage on stage.

 

[Crissa]

The "load stop" is is an ideal aftermarket type product. No need to integrate this into the CT. All that powered, hinged, folding shit just complicates the build, adds cost, weight and impacts reliability. My guess, for the core truck Tesla will use the KISS principle along with the ever present first principle engineering.

It's best to integrate anchor points, I think.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

I’d prefer a nice little cubby with some good ratchet straps to a load stop thing.

The load stop doesn’t replace the need for straps and only “solves” one very specific problem. Straps are simpler and far more versatile and likely needed for most loads you’d want a load stop on regardless.

 

[Cybertruck Hawaii]

Just toss a empty soda can in the back of the truck and start shooting pictures for a scale.

 

[Tinker71]

The tailgate ramp is questionable whether it's still remained a feature. It hasn't been seen since the initial reveal and the tailgate itself has changed quite a bit where the lid for the ramp doesn't look to be a lid that can open anymore. Also the bed is plastic now so we don't know if the tailgate inner wall is stainless still or just a plastic trim piece strong enough to support loads.

It's something I've been hoping to see another shot of in action cause it really has been absent since that one usage on stage.

I drew up a sketch of some ramps that clip into the tailgate. You would have to detach them from the tailgate and manually place them on the ground and align them with you quad/riding mower.

These would nestle into a waffle slap like construction of the tail gate. I forgot to save it and too lazy to dig for it in my post. This would be simple to build and would be replaceable if one got damaged.

The concept of the telescoping ramps was nice, but add some gritty mud to the mix and I think they will be problematic. KISS.

 

[Throwcomputer]

I drew up a sketch of some ramps that clip into the tailgate. You would have to detach them from the tailgate and manually place them on the ground and align them with you quad/riding mower.

These would nestle into a waffle slap like construction of the tail gate. I forgot to save it and too lazy to dig for it in my post. This would be simple to build and would be replaceable if one got damaged.

The concept of the telescoping ramps was nice, but add some gritty mud to the mix and I think they will be problematic. KISS.

Oh I'm sure it's not an easy thing to design for durability. But it was one of the features that drew me the most to the CT aside from is looks and electric power.

I hate having to carry ramps in the bed along with my Vespas. The nesting ramp is a genius solution to a common usage of truck beds.

 

[intimidator]

Oh I'm sure it's not an easy thing to design for durability. But it was one of the features that drew me the most to the CT aside from is looks and electric power.

I hate having to carry ramps in the bed along with my Vespas. The nesting ramp is a genius solution to a common usage of truck beds.

Don't worry, by the time you can take delivery of your CyberTruck, Vespas will be able to fly.

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