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Four new electric platforms, five gigafactories: Stellantis’ EV plan

The world's fourth-largest OEM just laid out its electrification strategy.

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Enlarge / In 2024, Ram will offer a battery-electric Ram 1500 pickup truck.
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Stellantis, the automaker with a portfolio of 14 brands that includes Jeep, Ram, Peugeot, and Citroën, is planning four new platforms for battery-electric vehicles as part of its electrification strategy. The company revealed its new EV strategy on Thursday morning, laying out a roadmap that it says will result in class-leading EVs in every segment, from small city cars to body-on-frame pickup trucks and commercial vans.

"The customer is always at the heart of Stellantis, and our commitment with this €30 billion [$35.5 billion] plus investment plan is to offer iconic vehicles that have the performance, capability, style, comfort and electric range that fit seamlessly into their daily lives," said Carlos Tavares, Stellantis' chief executive officer. "The strategy we laid out today focuses the right amount of investment on the right technology to reach the market at the right time, ensuring that Stellantis powers the freedom of movement in the most efficient, affordable and sustainable way."

The STLA Small platform will be for city cars with a range of up to 300 miles (500 km), and we're unlikely to see many of them here in the US, barring some fundamental shift in North American attitudes toward small, slow, cheap cars. STLA medium will give rise to compact EVs with a range of up to 440 miles (700 km).

STLA Large is for AWD performance cars, and importantly for the US market, muscle cars and SUVs. Stellantis says that eight vehicles built on the STLA Large platform will come to market in the next 3-5 years and that it's targeting 4.3 miles/kWh (6.9 km/kWh) for US-bound EVs.

Finally, there is the STLA Frame, which (as the name suggests) is a body-on-frame platform as opposed to the monocoque construction of the other three STLA EV platforms. STLA Frame will be used for full-size pickups and commercial vehicles, with an electric Ram 1500 truck due in 2024. Stellantis also briefly mentioned something called the "Range Electric Paradigm Breaker," which sounds like it might be a series hybrid, but Stellantis says it's not prepared to share any more details on the REPB yet.

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Each platform will be up to 2 million units a year. Volume and a high degree of shared components are key for both speed to market as well as cost control, Stellantis says. There will be three core drive modules that package the electric motor together with the transmission and power inverter. These drive modules also will be suitable for front-, rear-, and all-wheel drive applications, as well as 4xe in the case of plug-in hybrid Jeeps.

Power output will scale from 70 kW (94 hp) up to 330 kW (442 hp), with the most powerful drive modules operating at 800 V (as opposed to 400 V). There is a single common inverter across all three drive modules, which Stellantis says can operate at both voltages, with the main difference being the use of either silicon or silicon carbide semiconductors. Stellantis says it plans to build motors locally for each market, and in the US and China that will include building them in-house as well as from suppliers.

The new platforms will use a pair of battery-cell chemistries, one that uses no nickel or cobalt, and the other a high-energy density chemistry. (Additionally, it says that it will introduce solid-state battery packs by 2026.) STLA Small vehicles will use packs with capacities between 37 kWh and 82 kWh. STLA Medium EVs will carry between 87 kWh and 104 kWh, STLA Large will use packs of 101 kWh and 118 kWh, and STLA Frame will require between 159 kWh and 200 kWh packs. By 2030, that will require more than 260 GWh/year, which will be provided by five massive battery factories in Europe and North America. By that time, 70 percent of Stellantis' European sales and 40 percent of its North American sales will be low-emissions vehicles, it says.

SOURCE: arsTECHNICA






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By 2030, that will require more than 260 GWh/year, which will be provided by five massive battery factories in Europe and North America. By that time, 70 percent of Stellantis' European sales and 40 percent of its North American sales will be low-emissions vehicles, it says.
Wait.... So it's going to take them till 2030 to get to the point where 40% of the North American sales are LOW-EMISSIONS? Not necessarily EV's? What all does "low-emissions" entail in this announcement?

This seems like a recipe for bankruptcy given the pace that Tesla is advancing plus the advancements of other EV's. How are they expecting to make this work?
 
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Very forceful presentation I would say.

 

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Whether the Cybertruck is a success or not will be long since decided by 2024 when they launch.

There should be more than half a million on the road by then, maybe a full million?
 

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Very forceful presentation I would say.
Pretty weird presentation considering they are literally 5-15 years behind the curve depending on your perspective. The whole presentation is doublespeak. They talk about what they are doing "Today"... but they aren't even announcing a product, they are selling a promise that in 3 years they will kick everyone's ass... just you want and see.

"We are not following in the footsteps of our competitors..."

Hmm? Hate to break it to you, but you are.

This whole thing just stinks of a company that got caught with their pants down and is desperately trying to make it look like the whole thing was planned.
 
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There should be more than half a million on the road by then, maybe a full million?
Probably more. Wasn't there talk of the CT being built at Giga Shanghai? And possibly Giga Berlin?
 

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Probably more. Wasn't there talk of the CT being built at Giga Shanghai? And possibly Giga Berlin?
I'm not sure they will be legal or practical for many roads in the EU.

My number was a swag. I'm pretty confident there will be half a million sold and assuming production starts early 2022, half a million produced should be attainable. Not sure they can produce more than a million in 3 years though. Wouldn't be too shocking.

More surprising would be Ram producing something more appealing after Tesla has had 3 years to refine the CT.
 

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Very forceful presentation I would say.

If you are talking about his intonation then yes, I would certainly agree with you. It felt like a person driving with a bouncy foot jumping between the gas and the brake. My head kept jerking forward and back just from listening to him.

If you are talking about content, I am just seeing a bunch of empty promises at this point. No details about what, where, or how. Just a little bit on the who and when. And as often as he mentions the word competitors, one would think it would be obvious who he is talking about. But based on what he said, my guess is that the competitors he is referring to are just the big 3 and maybe some Japanese or German makers. But again, nothing gets defined or specified so who knows what he's talking about.
 
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You expect this is going to be in volume production by 2024 when we haven't even seen the first Cybertruck?
By 2024 I fully expect the CT to be in mass production mode in Texas. Given that there is also a whole 'nother gigafactory over in Germany, it would not surprise me at all if a Wolverine version was also being produced at scale before the end of 2024. Keep in mind that the building will be built so there will only be a bit of CT modification to design a Wolverine and then deployment of the factory line that will have already been proven out already by then.
 

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That presentation looks like it took an hour to create - "Yeah, and it'll be really great, really." peace
 
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You expect this is going to be in volume production by 2024 when we haven't even seen the first Cybertruck?
We haven't seen the first production CT because the plant that will be building it, Giga Austin, hasn't finished construction. Same for Giga Berlin.

But yes I think there will be volume production of the Wolverine by 2024.
 

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Wait.... So it's going to take them till 2030 to get to the point where 40% of the North American sales are LOW-EMISSIONS? Not necessarily EV's? What all does "low-emissions" entail in this announcement?

This seems like a recipe for bankruptcy given the pace that Tesla is advancing plus the advancements of other EV's. How are they expecting to make this work?
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