Factory of the Future (SpaceX/ Cybertruck)

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This cracks me up. People still claiming Cybertruck is not important to Musk or Tesla. Some still claim form factor will change.

Meanwhile Musk is showing off his vision of the future of SpaceX and half the vehicles are Cybertrucks based on the current design.

Also, top render shows a variant truck with a cap on it.

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Probably every time there's a truck in the random distribution they put in a Cybertruck.

It would certainly be something an industrial artist or architect would have a blast doing. Anything to get away from the boring cut and paste of ground elements ^-^

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I believe the Cybertruck is essentially fully designed. Tesla is struggling to deign the manufacturing since that will be the key to its success. Cost will be critical. It is very easy for Ford to adapt a F150 to electric. It is not breakthrough thinking like the Cybertruck. Price has got to be a huge issue with inflation rampant. Hopefully Tesla will be able to overcome that with it being fully constructed with less outside vendors. This will probable be the first vehicle Tesla produces with the most options. Unlike Tesla cars, trucks will have much more specialized uses. Options will allow it to target multiple markets. I hope we see production this year.
 


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I love the dually version of the Cybertruck also but I wouldn't read too much into it I'm afraid, it's just a model the architectural/engineering firm grabbed and put into the render.
 

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I like the look of some dually versions too, but they would be inherently less efficient, and require more clearance attention while driving or parking. As for those who would attempt to deemphasize the importance of Cybertruck, I think (especially today) with each message, one also needs to look at the motives. Elon's enthusiasm for the Cybertruck is what I listen to.
 

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Yeah for a dually Cybertruck to make sense the energy density in battery packs has to increase significantly.
 

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Yeah for a dually Cybertruck to make sense the energy density in battery packs has to increase significantly.
Duallies don't make alot of sense when you have active rear suspension and turning, either. Originally they spread the weight from the load onto more tire surface, but tire compounds are much more advanced today and the load control you lose from a dually configuration drops your capacity more than it increases it.

It's great at low non-highway speeds or at massive loads like tractor-trailer operations, but that really needs a purpose built 6x6 rear-wheel-steering configuration to meet the capability that will be in the stock Cybertruck.

Nice render, tho.

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Duallies don't make alot of sense when you have active rear suspension and turning, either. Originally they spread the weight from the load onto more tire surface, but tire compounds are much more advanced today and the load control you lose from a dually configuration drops your capacity more than it increases it.

It's great at low non-highway speeds or at massive loads like tractor-trailer operations, but that really needs a purpose built 6x6 rear-wheel-steering configuration to meet the capability that will be in the stock Cybertruck.

Nice render, tho.

-Crissa
I'd be down for a 6X6 Cybertruck. But not right now Elon, 4 wheels to start is perfect!! For now.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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Duallies don't make alot of sense when you have active rear suspension and turning, either. Originally they spread the weight from the load onto more tire surface, but tire compounds are much more advanced today and the load control you lose from a dually configuration drops your capacity more than it increases it.

It's great at low non-highway speeds or at massive loads like tractor-trailer operations, but that really needs a purpose built 6x6 rear-wheel-steering configuration to meet the capability that will be in the stock Cybertruck.

Nice render, tho.

-Crissa
What do you mean by dropping capacity? Duallies have higher payload and towing capacities than the same truck equipped with a single.

I don't think a 6x6 version would make sense economically, it would be more expensive than a dually and require a much more significant redesign for what is a low volume product.
 

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No dually required you can get the same load capacity with super singles.

Dualies are also fairly useless offroad in sand and loose dirt, and pretty pointless in rocky conditions where small rocks can get lodged in the gap, requiring a tyre to be deflated to remove it.

And they add disproportionately more rolling resistance in comparison to a single, because they essentially have twice as many sidewalls to deform when rolling and create more air resistance because the gap is also added to the wheel width. Also adds more bump area.
 

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I believe the Cybertruck is essentially fully designed. Tesla is struggling to deign the manufacturing since that will be the key to its success. Cost will be critical. It is very easy for Ford to adapt a F150 to electric. It is not breakthrough thinking like the Cybertruck. Price has got to be a huge issue with inflation rampant. Hopefully Tesla will be able to overcome that with it being fully constructed with less outside vendors. This will probable be the first vehicle Tesla produces with the most options. Unlike Tesla cars, trucks will have much more specialized uses. Options will allow it to target multiple markets. I hope we see production this year.
More Plug’nPlay - more people will want Teslas with the mostest third party options. Like a Honey Badger, Tesla don’t care about Plug’nPlay fun but quality that’s #1. It’s mission is to reseed vehicles onto the planet halting CO2 AGW. As long as its Batterypack, electric motor(s) and computers remain factory, Thirdparty accessory suppliers will have a profitable future up-selling options; don’t you think?

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2nd set Wheels (magnesium21”,alum20”)
Interior (SpaceX white)
Tesla aero racking system(racks/drones by others)
 

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No dually required you can get the same load capacity with super singles.

Dualies are also fairly useless offroad in sand and loose dirt, and pretty pointless in rocky conditions where small rocks can get lodged in the gap, requiring a tyre to be deflated to remove it.

And they add disproportionately more rolling resistance in comparison to a single, because they essentially have twice as many sidewalls to deform when rolling and create more air resistance because the gap is also added to the wheel width. Also adds more bump area.
Agreed, I was not referring to a super single. Comparison was between regular single and dually.
 

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What do you mean by dropping capacity? Duallies have higher payload and towing capacities than the same truck equipped with a single.
A Cybertruck will have active suspension and rear wheel turning, which a dually setup would negate the advantages from. These stabilize the load at speed, which a dually does not; the advantage of a dually is spreading the load out on more tire.

Towing isn't my jam, so I can't say for sure, but we're talking modern trucks here. And control matters, not just not popping your tires.

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