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Tesla’s first Cybertruck-specific Supercharger spaces are now official

Posted on October 20, 2020

The City Council has officially approved a Tesla V3 Supercharger project in Pasadena, California, that will equip Cybertruck-specific charging spaces.
In September, Teslarati revealed that a new Supercharger site was submitted for the location of 85 E. State Street in Pasadena, California.

The new EV charging location’s designs and blueprints revealed that 47 new stalls would be built for electric cars to receive supplemental range during a trip. However, one of the more notable indications on the design revealed that Tesla would be designing some stalls to be capable of housing the massive Cybertruck that will begin deliveries sometime in 2021.

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The design, seen above, shows that six spaces would be designed to cater to the massive size of the Cybertruck specifically. With the all-electric pickup being significantly larger than other electric cars available on the market today, some charging stations are preparing for the Cybertruck’s introduction into the market.

Yesterday, the Pasadena City Council held a meeting to vote on 27 different issues according to their publicly available agenda. According to documents released yesterday, Tesla’s new charging station was the 24th issue to be voted on and was approved.

The approval increases the number of stations in the Los Angeles area, which currently stands at about 20. The 20 stations account for over 200 available stalls in LA, but more are needed as electric vehicles’ popularity, Teslas in specific, continues to grow.

Interestingly, the new station will not consist completely of Tesla-owned chargers. At least 20 of the stalls at the 85 E. State Street station will be owned and operated by Pasadena Water and Power (PWP), who will fund the project partially with a $280,000 grant it secured from the Southern California Incentive Project, Pasadena Now reported.

Currently, the project plans to implement only V3 Superchargers at the new site, which seems to be the new normal at all incoming Supercharger locations. The V3 Superchargers offer charging rates at up to 250 kW, allowing for charging speeds of up to 1,000 miles per hour.

Tesla has been preparing for a massive rollout of V3 Supercharging Stalls in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area in 2021. Earlier this year, the company started displaying foldable signs at currently operational charging locations, which indicated that Tesla would be installing more high-powered stalls in LA.

According to the documents released by the Pasadena City Council, the introduction of more charging stations aligns with the plan “to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by expanding the use of EVs and related infrastructure.”
 
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Until the U.S. charging locations are "Pull-Thru" like other Tesla SuperChargers which are trailer friendly, specifically those in Norway at Circle K stations, the U.S. market is just "pissing in the wind" with this silly "stall" mentality. With my Cybertruck I WILL be pulling a trailer on road trips and I will most definitely require a charging facility that will accommodate the truck and trailer combined anything less is just a "band-aid". 🤮
 
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They have to make pull thru sites. Having to disconnect the trailer to use Supercharging is an absolute NO GO. Might have to use Tesla Semi chargers when they become operational.
 

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I wouldnt say absolute no-go, but it sure would be annoying. as im sure the ct will have auto drive to the trailer hitch/ball and allign
 
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Given the scarcity of pull through stalls and, it seems, the intention of Tesla to do nothing to improve this in the foreseeable future I believe the answer to charging while towing is going to be this https://www.evchargeking.com/en/t2-tesla-charging-cable-single-phase-32a. Note that I haven't found one made in the US nor am I 100% certain this one would work in the US nor that the manufacturer would ship here. But clearly the technology exists.

Even with such an "extension cord" I don't see a way to charge in the layout shown in the OP. If you pull forward into one of the CT stalls your trailer will hang out into an area obviously needed for traffic circulation.

Actually, cancel that UK extension cord. It's clearly a Level 2 cord. What's needed is a DC extension cord.
 

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It looks like the only thing that makes these spots special is the additional width. I did some supercharging at a few different locations this past weekend in the Model Y (76" wide) and a couple spots got a little tight. But I am confident that the CT (80" wide) would have no trouble fitting into these spots; might just require pulling in a little slower.

Most superchargers I have encountered are the back-in style, where width is no concern at all.
 

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Dropping a trailer really isn't that big a deal, provided you have a working electric tongue jack. And that's not to mention the ease of setting the trailer jack foot and then dropping the CT rear suspension. You don't even need a working trailer tongue jack!

The CT will undoubtedly have a camera showing the hitch ball which will make it even easier.

Whether we like it or not, those who are going to tow will to have to drop the trailer to charge at nearly all the Superchargers.

And if you never plan on towing with your CT, or don't own a trailer, please let us trailer/camper owners worry about charging with the CT.

Let's all just man up (or human up) and not bitch about it too much. This is a first world problem. Let's all hug a tree, fist pump thy charger stall neighbor, love life for being lucky enough to afford a CT.

Grumpy old man rant over



Sorry. In retrospect it seems I need some coffee........
 

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I'm curious about them possibly installing the capacity to have these SC stations be ready for upgrading to a V4 SC. Being retired, I mostly am not bothered by the thought of waiting 10-20 minutes to charge up. But faster charging is a good thing for quicker EV adaption and my occasional impatience when I want to get somewhere.
 

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A V4 SuperCharger. Now there's something to contemplate. Everybody else is installing or talking about 350 kW and a V3 is limited to 250. I think Tesla is going to have to do something. The big question is as to whether the V4 will be a 920V or 500V unit. Obviously the 920V design would be able to serve 500V Tesla's i.e. everything they have on the road today.

The big question is what will they do for the Cybertruck. It needs faster charging than V3 can deliver. I think the simplest answer is to put a second port on it and have the V4 be nothing more than two V3's in the same can (with 2 hoses) or just two adjacent V3s. I can't see them switching over to an 800V architecture in the CT as there would be problems (not unsolvable ones though as GM and Rivian are doing it) of having them be able to use the current installed base of V2 and V3.
 
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Dropping a trailer really isn't that big a deal, provided you have a working electric tongue jack. And that's not to mention the ease of setting the trailer jack foot and then dropping the CT rear suspension. You don't even need a working trailer tongue jack!

The CT will undoubtedly have a camera showing the hitch ball which will make it even easier.

Whether we like it or not, those who are going to tow will to have to drop the trailer to charge at nearly all the Superchargers.

And if you never plan on towing with your CT, or don't own a trailer, please let us trailer/camper owners worry about charging with the CT.

Let's all just man up (or human up) and not bitch about it too much. This is a first world problem. Let's all hug a tree, fist pump thy charger stall neighbor, love life for being lucky enough to afford a CT.

Grumpy old man rant over



Sorry. In retrospect it seems I need some coffee........
I couldnt agree with you more....the truck will make detaching the trailer a simple task. the suspensions ability to crouch and im sure additional software add should make this a minute or two task at most. Additionally, there are a lot of supercharges that arent in dedicated SC lots so i only see pull through spots happening in SC only lots with plenty of room.
 

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Two thoughts:

1) I disagree with some comments posted here about the need for pull through stalls for the CT. Yes, it might not be "much" of a pain to disconnect and reconnect a trailer. But, MOST people who haul the trailers will NOT want to do so on a regular basis! If Tesla is serious about getting the CT sales for business/work usage - then, the pull through stalls should be a serious consideration. If I'm running a landscaping business with four people in the truck and someone is going to try to convince me to go electric - my having to disconnect my trailer every time I want to "top off the tank" will be a SERIOUS detractor to my willingness to leave my ICE truck to try EV.

2) WHY? WHY? WHY? Does everyone keep referring to the CT as "HUGE?" The truck height, weight, and length are literally the averages of the figures for the F-150, Chevy 1500, and Dodge Ram 1500.... So, the CT is just average in size for a normal sized truck. I just don't get it.
 

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If Tesla is serious about getting the CT sales for business/work usage - then, the pull through stalls should be a serious consideration.
Something that people who intend to use their vehicles in commercial service need to think about: the SuperCharger network is not available to you. Nor would you really want it. Why pay Elon 28¢ a kWh when you can get it for less elsewhere? This would mean, of course, that you would have to install charging hardware "elsewhere" but you could easily install it in such a way that charging with a trailer attached is easily done. For a local guy running a lawn service that could mean at home or at his shop (if he has one). Level 2 charging is slow but if your aren't cutting grass at night you can be charging your CT just as a residential user would. Besides this Level 3 chargers are now being offered on the market. Most of them are only 20 - 50 kW at best but thats 2 - 5 times faster than Level 2 to the point that you could think about returning to the shop for an hour or so to pick up 80 - 100 miles of range during the workday.
 

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Dropping a trailer really isn't that big a deal, provided you have a working electric tongue jack. And that's not to mention the ease of setting the trailer jack foot and then dropping the CT rear suspension. You don't even need a working trailer tongue jack!

The CT will undoubtedly have a camera showing the hitch ball which will make it even easier.

Whether we like it or not, those who are going to tow will to have to drop the trailer to charge at nearly all the Superchargers.

And if you never plan on towing with your CT, or don't own a trailer, please let us trailer/camper owners worry about charging with the CT.

Let's all just man up (or human up) and not bitch about it too much. This is a first world problem. Let's all hug a tree, fist pump thy charger stall neighbor, love life for being lucky enough to afford a CT.

Grumpy old man rant over



Sorry. In retrospect it seems I need some coffee........

dropping a trailer is a huge deal. Comparing a 10 minute stop for fuel in my truck with trailer now to say over an hour with disconnect, drop (hopefully close and then add a locking ball if you care about your trailer staying there) unplug, reposition and go.


if I’m pulling a trailer across country this could conceivably add 18-24 hours to the trip depending on towing range.
now add in all the labor. What if someone has some minor physical limitations
 

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