FRUNK on the Cybertruck?

[rupeba]

Hello, of all of the posts I have seen, I do not recall any regarding the front, capacity or access.
does someone have any information to that ? What is under that sheet of metal? will Santa come in a CYBER SLED?

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[Crissa]

Hello, of all of the posts I have seen, I do not recall any regarding the front, capacity or access.
does someone have any information to that ? What is under that sheet of metal? will Santa come in a CYBER SLED?

There have been no photos of the frunk. The prototypes may not have had a tub installed there yet.

-Crissa

 

[JBee]

There has been a few conversations about the CT frunk. I have made a few renders using my CAD drawing to get an idea of how it might be dimensioned. One thing I'd like to see is that the front grill will lift with the hood, like the F150 Lightning, which will make for a lower loading height.

Thats about 300l but very shallow.

This is about 400l in volume, or the same size as the Lightning, just to give you an idea.
Note that the CT has a massive interior dashboard, because the slope of the windscreen, which means it might have a short frunk hood, but still has a lot of internal volume. We also thought a drawer version would be possible:

 

[Cybr on]

It could be possible for the front end to actually tilt forward like a semi does. I’ve seen pics where the top edge of frunk area meets really close to the BAW. So, makes me think it’s opposite of the Ford lightning.

 

[Sirfun]

Here's a thought, how about a front-gate?

 

[Crissa]

Here's a thought, how about a front-gate?

I think no, because it's a structural piece, but it's possible. Elon wouldn't shut up about it if they did that, tho.

-Crissa

 

[Diehard]

Drawer accessibility especially when parked on the street with such a long vehicle may be an issue. But I don’t mind access to as much of that volume as practical from inside, especially passenger side.

 

[Dids]

Personal unsubstantiated is that grille lifts with hood. Release slides hood and grill forward prior to hinge at A pillar. Of course completely powered with multiple powered latches.

 

[HaulingAss]

Let's remain grounded in reality, folks.

The Cybertruck hood is much lower than the Rivian or Lightning hoods. That means frunk access won't be a problem even if the hood simply opens conventionally, like all other Tesla to date. The load height will be even lower with the suspension in the low position in the event that a strength-challenged person wants to put a heavy watermelon in the Frunk without straining a muscle. The important dimension for ease of loading the frunk is the horizontal distance from the forward most point of the vehicle to the frunk recess because that will determine how far loaded items must be held away from your body to place them in the frunk. We won't know that until we see the first pictures of the open hood.

The low height of the hood means the flat front panel below the hood will not lift with the hood, nor will it pull out like a drawer. This should be obvious to anyone familiar with the design constraints of crash safety. This is a critical part of the front crumple zone and giving up the strength of that 3mm cold-rolled stainless steel to a hinged hood or drawer would be a stupid design decision if Tesla wants to make the vehicle as safe as possible. And Tesla always puts safety first. That is why so few people die in a Tesla. Safety matters. That's how we know it will open conventionally.

I feel like people are dreaming up totally impractical features to create disappointment and resentment when the final design is actually revealed. That would be shameful, and the considerate interpretation would simply be that there are a lot of people that don't understand vehicle design. That could explain this irrational fixation on having a non-structural front grill area. I sincerely hope it is not the former, but I am well aware of how many people spend hours of their time trying to discredit Tesla and throwing shade their way.

 

[fhteagle]

My initial reaction to the drawer-as-frunk idea was, "Awesome", but less than 30 seconds later practicality pissed on that wet dream. Not being able to open it when properly parked up against a signpost, or bollard, or wall is strike one. How things naturally and magically end up exceeding the height of any drawer and jamming the ability to open the drawer is strike 2. Second strike could be mitigated somewhat by proper top trim panel, either in the recess itself or mounted to the drawer so that it auto closes as the drawer retracts. Canoo's front opening is probably the best thought out that I've seen, though. That design doesn't perfectly mitigate strike 1, but should clear most center-only objects, and can't have any problems with strike 2 that I can see.

Will be curious to see what CT ends up with. Bring on the final design reveal!!!

 

[Haopec]

Let's remain grounded in reality, folks.

The Cybertruck hood is much lower than the Rivian or Lightning hoods. That means frunk access won't be a problem even if the hood simply opens conventionally, like all other Tesla to date. The load height will be even lower with the suspension in the low position in the event that a strength-challenged person wants to put a heavy watermelon in the Frunk without straining a muscle. The important dimension for ease of loading the frunk is the horizontal distance from the forward most point of the vehicle to the frunk recess because that will determine how far loaded items must be held away from your body to place them in the frunk. We won't know that until we see the first pictures of the open hood.

The low height of the hood means the flat front panel below the hood will not lift with the hood, nor will it pull out like a drawer. This should be obvious to anyone familiar with the design constraints of crash safety. This is a critical part of the front crumple zone and giving up the strength of that 3mm cold-rolled stainless steel to a hinged hood or drawer would be a stupid design decision if Tesla wants to make the vehicle as safe as possible. And Tesla always puts safety first. That is why so few people die in a Tesla. Safety matters. That's how we know it will open conventionally.

Great points!
The R1t access is not ideal, I use it mostly for lightwieght items, but a lower entry point plus the capacity of the truck " squatting" will make all the difference.

 

[charliemagpie]

Form follows function.
The front grill folds down, and we can have a BBQ on it.

The angled sides end up being a wind break. Perfect.


And a spot for our favorite CT coffee maker

 

[JBee]

Let's remain grounded in reality, folks.

The Cybertruck hood is much lower than the Rivian or Lightning hoods. That means frunk access won't be a problem even if the hood simply opens conventionally, like all other Tesla to date. The load height will be even lower with the suspension in the low position in the event that a strength-challenged person wants to put a heavy watermelon in the Frunk without straining a muscle. The important dimension for ease of loading the frunk is the horizontal distance from the forward most point of the vehicle to the frunk recess because that will determine how far loaded items must be held away from your body to place them in the frunk. We won't know that until we see the first pictures of the open hood.

The low height of the hood means the flat front panel below the hood will not lift with the hood, nor will it pull out like a drawer. This should be obvious to anyone familiar with the design constraints of crash safety. This is a critical part of the front crumple zone and giving up the strength of that 3mm cold-rolled stainless steel to a hinged hood or drawer would be a stupid design decision if Tesla wants to make the vehicle as safe as possible. And Tesla always puts safety first. That is why so few people die in a Tesla. Safety matters. That's how we know it will open conventionally.

I feel like people are dreaming up totally impractical features to create disappointment and resentment when the final design is actually revealed. That would be shameful, and the considerate interpretation would simply be that there are a lot of people that don't understand vehicle design. That could explain this irrational fixation on having a non-structural front grill area. I sincerely hope it is not the former, but I am well aware of how many people spend hours of their time trying to discredit Tesla and throwing shade their way.

Lol hilarious buddy! Your reality is obviously not the same one engineers live in.

It seems you still haven't changed you ideas in over a year of what to expect in the frunk, but at least you didn't mention how "little" the frunk will have to be this time because there is "no way" it could have one the size of the Lightning. BTW I'm not lifting expectations, just showing what is possible, to answer the question posed by the OP with some more details because I can using CAD and actual dimensions.

The lifting front grill will work just as well as the side impact protection the the opening side doors that get you inside the vehicle. On impact the grill is compressed into the frame, just like the the doors are compressed into the cabin frame. In fact the MY does the exact same thing with the front cast, they leave the middle "soft" intentionally, with minimal sections across it to protect ingress.

As for the bumper height, which is the floor loading height on the Lightning, they are about the same between the Lightning and the CT:

Yes the top of the grill is lower on the CT, but the CT is still some 8-10" higher than the Lightning loading height without a opening grill. Note the interior of the CT is generally lower as it only has a structural pack and not a ladder frame etc.

 

[JBee]

My initial reaction to the drawer-as-frunk idea was, "Awesome", but less than 30 seconds later practicality pissed on that wet dream. Not being able to open it when properly parked up against a signpost, or bollard, or wall is strike one. How things naturally and magically end up exceeding the height of any drawer and jamming the ability to open the drawer is strike 2. Second strike could be mitigated somewhat by proper top trim panel, either in the recess itself or mounted to the drawer so that it auto closes as the drawer retracts. Canoo's front opening is probably the best thought out that I've seen, though. That design doesn't perfectly mitigate strike 1, but should clear most center-only objects, and can't have any problems with strike 2 that I can see.

Will be curious to see what CT ends up with. Bring on the final design reveal!!!

The drawer design would still have a top opening frunk hood, so you could load the frunk without pulling out the drawer in tight spaces. If the hood did not open, you would loose about 70l of storage space directly under the hood. Technically, if there is a opening grill, you can still have a drawer as an aftermarket accessory as well, but the main intention of a factory drawer is to allow for easy access to the empty volume underneath the huge CT dashboard and utilize that for outside accessible storage.

It would be ideal place for an outside camp kitchen, or setting up a workbench with all the power/service tools in one place for trades. With that the bed would be free to be used for materials, or toys. I'm also hoping the front interior seats are on rails that are mounted on the floor itself, rather than on a hob, this together with the rear foldup seats (as seen in the release pics) would allow for enough space to sleep on the rear cab floor.

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