FSD 12.5.5.2 Gripe list

[DittoDan]

I drove about an hour with the new version this morning.

I found it to handle staying centered in the lane much better on the highway.

my biggest issues were;

- when getting off the highway onto a long straight ramp ending in a redlight with stopped cars, the Cyberbeast kept trucking at them full spead ahead. it saw the speed limit of the ramp as 70MPH and I had to, out of my own comfort, exit FSD and brake well before the Cybertruck was even slowing down from 70 MPH. I even have alot of trust in these systems having used sonar cruise control for years.

- approaching another redlight the CB was breaking way too slow approaching the back of a flat bed tow truck it could see stopped light.

So late / abrubt braking is my main issue with new V.

Same here, its so scary, you're not sure if its gonna slow down. And many times, mine hits the brakes, there's no reason for the truck to hit the brakes when it has regen braking, plenty of room and vision to see everyone is stopped way ahead of time! If the algorithm is following humans, what human drives like that?

Dan the Man from Michigan

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[DittoDan]

Do not misunderstand, I love my CB, but this last update was a full step backwards. Wish I could revert to 12.5.5. It wasn't perfect, but this new version is far worse. So I'm listing the MAJOR issues here. We all know about speed issues and such, but I'm talking about the stuff here that could cause major problems. This is meant as constructive criticism and not to be just a B fest.

1. In left HOV lane FSD attempts to take every LH exit along the way even though the nav says go straight.
2. FSD Does not see gates with arms. The arms that go up and down that are in front of gates. These are invisible to FSD until it checks to see if it can start rolling forward. Then even if the arm raises FSD stays put.
3. VERY hard braking at some stop lights and very specific STOP signs. This has happened behind other cars as well. I swear the ABS was activating from the heavy braking.
4. Some turns aren't successfully completed so it turns very late and stops mid turn. FSD is confused and won't move through the turn.
5. When traveling in a lane around a curve FSD cues off of the vehicle in the next lane over and tracks it as though it's in front of you. Works fine until the other lane slows down and the other vehicle not in the lane has to brake which causes FSD to suddenly brake even though the lane is clear.

Please feel free to add on. I'll try to update as I find more

My FSD, (latest) this happened to me this morning. FSD was going to turn left on Dutton rd.
I took over, went straight and thru the intersection. I'm not sure how they would fix this, because it seems that the programming never crosses a double yellow line, but every human does it!

 

[carsly]

I took a 102 mile round-trip yesterday, my best guesstimate is 99 of those miles were on FSD. Here is what I noticed:

Positives:
- generally performs well on highways but still has the issue of traveling below set speed even when weather and traffic conditions are clear. Auto lane changes were smooth.
- local roads with stop signs, traffic, parked cars etc. it's pretty good at as well

Negatives:
- tends to hog the left (passing) lane even when one or more lanes to the right are clear
- even if it knows it needs to exit right in 1 mile, it won't even try to move out of the far left lane until it's almost too late - and then it tries to cross 2-3 lanes of traffic in just a couple hundred yards. WTF?
- loves to tailgate, like it's an LA driver or something.
- tends to brake late, and hard, in almost all circumstances. Even if cars in front are slowing down, which it sees, it doesn't back off the throttle until it's way late and then it has to slam the brakes. How about gently easing off and using regen?
- still loves to run over center medians on left-hand turns
- doesn't know what to do when it arrives at a destination. Sometimes nav will alert you've arrived but CT just keeps driving past.

All in all, if you're using FSD as adaptive cruise control on well-marked highways it's pretty solid - better than most drivers. It struggles a bit on local roads due to the late braking, tight left turns, and especially managing (or not) traffic circles. If Cybercab uses the FSD build on CT available today, it's going to lead to carnage. Fortunately, there is plenty of time for training and improvements and Cybercab is dimensionally closer to a Model 3 with comparable dynamics in all likelihood so it should be faster to ramp the AI effectiveness.

 

[Tecyber1]

Mine did that too, in the setting somewhere, I turned OFF the setting that said something like: "Go the natural speed of the surrounding traffic". It worked fine after that.

I hope this helps,

Dan the Man from Michigan

Yep, I didn't follow up but I turned that crap off and its fine now!

 

[Sjohnson20]

Yep, I didn't follow up but I turned that crap off and its fine now!

I didn't know that setting existed I will have to try it. Today it was going 78 in a 60 lol

 

[DittoDan]

I didn't know that setting existed I will have to try it. Today it was going 78 in a 60 lol

Actually, after I made that post, I went to my truck to see where that setting is/was and couldn't find it again. Maybe it was in the previous version of FSD? (IDK).

Dan the Man from Michigan

 

[kappaknight]

Looking forward to our next update soon... I've been doing more and more manual engagements lately

- Stays in the right lane when merging onto the highway, when the HOV lane is open.
- Even on regular streets, it will not proactively merge into the correct right or left lane when it knows a turn is coming up until it's close to being too late (it's actually missed exits and then won't try to correct the routing afterwards on highways)
- Constantly choosing the wrong lane when turning

 

[Sjohnson20]

Hoping for an update soon at least for the interstate driving. These are my current problems after a 100 mile drive today:

1. Runs over the left line on the interstate instead of keeping in the center of the lane sometimes. Seems to bother other drivers that are passing on the left.

2. Goes way too fast into backed up traffic on the interstate. I had to hit the brakes twice when it was going 70 and traffic was completely stopped a short distance ahead.

3. Doesn't get out of the left lane fast enough or sometimes at all. I manually had to hit the blinker a few times to move it over.

4. Makes dumb passing decisions when the exit is coming up soon and can't get back over to the right lane. I wish there was a way just to select stay right when there's an exit a mile away.

4. Had to disengage for a large bag or something that everyone else was going around. Would be nice if it could avoid things like that.

The latest map update fixed multiple issues I had on the same drive previously. Speed limits are fixed, a lane that was ending it now merges in time, and there was a construction zone that it wanted to exit and return to the highway and now it doesn't do that either.

 

[Jack27]

People acting like FSD and other things we got is standard on every single car on the road and are perfect and Tesla is failing ?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Do not misunderstand, I love my CB, but this last update was a full step backwards. Wish I could revert to 12.5.5. It wasn't perfect, but this new version is far worse. So I'm listing the MAJOR issues here. We all know about speed issues and such, but I'm talking about the stuff here that could cause major problems. This is meant as constructive criticism and not to be just a B fest.

1. In left HOV lane FSD attempts to take every LH exit along the way even though the nav says go straight.
2. FSD Does not see gates with arms. The arms that go up and down that are in front of gates. These are invisible to FSD until it checks to see if it can start rolling forward. Then even if the arm raises FSD stays put.
3. VERY hard braking at some stop lights and very specific STOP signs. This has happened behind other cars as well. I swear the ABS was activating from the heavy braking.
4. Some turns aren't successfully completed so it turns very late and stops mid turn. FSD is confused and won't move through the turn.
5. When traveling in a lane around a curve FSD cues off of the vehicle in the next lane over and tracks it as though it's in front of you. Works fine until the other lane slows down and the other vehicle not in the lane has to brake which causes FSD to suddenly brake even though the lane is clear.

Please feel free to add on. I'll try to update as I find more

My approach with FSD has been the same since I got beta: I take it on the same 2 routes from home and as soon as it screws up I don’t use it again until the next release. You have a long list of ‘complaints’ which, to me, means you: (a) use it on many routes at different times, like me, (b) keep using it after it screws up, or (c) something else. I also have a long list of complaints because, in the past, I have used NoAP on trips, but none of this is new. Tesla advances and retreats with FSD; that is how ML works. They will advance again.

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