FSD... It won't run over pedestrians. So pedestrians...

[Crissa]

What if pedestrians have no fear of cars? What will the cars do?

-Crissa

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[John K]

Either Neil is a giant or his ceiling is low.

Agree with Malcom’s trolly answer with an addition.

Let me reintroduce the red light authorization to kill autonomous driving.

 

[CyberGus]

What if pedestrians have no fear of cars? What will the cars do?

-Crissa

In my recollection of Asimov, people were often trying to trick robots into breaking The Three Laws, and that such behavior was illegal.

I’m sure we will eventually reach a point where automatons are ubiquitous, which people of poor character will try to exploit. New laws will be required.

 

[Ogre]

What if pedestrians have no fear of cars? What will the cars do?

Am I the only one who thinks a world where you aren’t afraid of getting killed by cars is a better world?

There are a lot of places where it isn’t safe to have cars, but we do regardless. Get the cars out of the crowded places where there are lots of soft squishy people and this problem solves itself.

 

[BillyGee]

In my recollection of Asimov, people were often trying to trick robots into breaking The Three Laws, and that such behavior was illegal.

I’m sure we will eventually reach a point where automatons are ubiquitous, which people of poor character will try to exploit. New laws will be required.

And hopefully everything will be recorded and a review will weed out the exploitative characters.

NDG has been anti-Tesla and anti-Musk for a long time. When Rogan told him he'd bought a model S NDG replied with, "He conned you into that?"

He's basically a bad faith actor at this point in the ev and automation space.

 

[Crissa]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/24/22639226/waymo-san-francisco-rides-self-driving-service

-Crissa

 

[jerhenderson]

she's just a hack delivering what she has been told to deliver. Still not Teslas fault if people don't understand what they read.

 

[Tinker71]

I consider myself a pretty good driver. No accidents in 34 years or tickets in 30 and I drive more than my share. (not that I don't speed so much) I am a defensive driver, I try not to tailgate and I watch for speed traps which adds to my attentiveness. I admittedly drive a little too fast in winter conditions. My biggest close calls have been:

1.) people entering my lane from their blind spot and causing me to swerve and me doing the same to them.
2.) Drowsy driving: I will usually pull over and nap almost anywhere, but sometimes it comes on really fast.
3.) Rolling over after sliding off the road in winter. So far I haven't. I have lost traction, had to steer into skid, but I have not actually gone off the road. On a divided highway I am generally figuring worst case where should I go if I loose traction vs overcorrecting and rolling. I figure I accept hitting a snow bank or railing as long as I don't go into opposing traffic on non divided road.
4.) Avoiding deer might be up there, although I generally plan on only slight avoidance moves and hitting them.

If FSD or Autopilot can protect me from either of these 4 things and more the $8k will be worth it because it is only a matter of time before something gets me.

I expect level 3 and 4 FSD when I get my CT in 2024. I could see level 4 being turned on for rural highways without construction with good weather and light traffic or high traffic and lower speeds. I expect to be alerted to take over often.

I think level 5 is 6-10 years off and Tesla may be first. It will take years worth of data and new laws before we can reliably sleep in a car while it is driving you somewhere or send it out as a rob taxi. I am fine with that and I think of my $8k is a societal investment in machine learning (hopefully not terminator style AI).

 

[Crissa]

A) No one said that.
B) Images aren't quotes.

An appointee is not the determinator of whether or not those facts are true or not. And at no point did Tesla - although Elon had given some rosy predictions - put a timeline on FSD.

In fact, that little graphic is wrong: Tesla does not say that FSD is anything but a future-proof capability that they will upgrade the hardware to meet the needs of their self driving system.

-Crissa

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