Gas SUV Catches Fire After Crashing Into Tesla Model 3 In China

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Gas SUV Catches Fire After Crashing Into Tesla Model 3 In China


Isn't It Ironic?
Ever since the fake brake failure reports and protests in China, Tesla fan and owner Ray4Tesla has clearly been paying close attention. In fact, he started sharing videos of other cars getting into collisions while nearby Teslas were unscathed.
This was all due to the protests and manipulated media reports in China causing some people to ban Teslas at their places of business, and others to actually actively avoid driving near Tesla vehicles for fear of potential crashes.
We can only imagine how excited Ray was when he came across the video above. While car crashes are never something to be happy about, the video is sort of a culmination of Ray's efforts to prove that Teslas aren't unsafe, they don't have braking issues, and they typically don't catch fire. On the flip side, the number of gas-powered car crashes and fires across the globe each day is massive.


The video was posted on YouTube by ACM Union Media Group with a title that reads (translated):
"Hongqi HS5 and Tesla collided in Zhengzhou on June 5th. Please watch the video for the result. Auto market data shows that Tesla has broken out of China and is selling more and more."
If the translation is accurate, it seems the YouTube channel is making it clear that a gas-powered luxury SUV hit a Tesla Model 3, and the result may be considered ironic. In addition, the text points to Tesla's success in China, despite the recent adversity and negative news.

We've seen many severe crashes involving Tesla vehicles, and in most cases, it seems the occupants have walked away, or perhaps sustained minor injuries. And, while some Tesla vehicles have caught fire over the years, as have many other electric cars, it's not common in the grand scheme of things.

The Tesla Model 3 received a perfect five-star overall safety rating from NHTSA. This means it earned five stars in all categories. It was also designated as a Top Safety Pick+ by IIHS, the organization's highest honor.

Sources: ACM Union Media, Ray4Tesla (Twitter) via Teslarati
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So the FUD is now probably going to be saying that even when Tesla's don't actually catch on fire, they can cause other vehicles to catch on fire. Clearly Tesla's are the problem here. As opposed to the gallons of explosive liquids that get stored and piped around the ICE vehicles.

I am reminded of the fight between AC and DC current back in the day. DC proponents did things like electrocute live elephants to death to show the dangers of AC current. It was a huge battle but in the end Tesla won and we now have AC running all over the place. Nary a single elephant has died of electrocution since. (Though there are periodic humans getting electrocuted.)
 

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How old are you if you remember?!

Hmmm, I cannot remember the guy‘s last name who contributed greatly towards AC.

I am still pissed at Edison over the elephant.
 

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Elephants have died of electrocution since.

But DC long-distance interlinks are still dangerous.

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At massive voltage and amperage, it's no longer the signal pulse that can be dangerous, it's just the burning part of electrons trying to rush through things.

-Crissa
Agreed. once got a carbonized burn on my finger when DC rushed through. High voltage DC still gets hot!
 

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Obviously, all ICE's should be banned just for that.
But I do have mad respect for the ICE vehicle killing itself in shame.
 

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Hmmm, I cannot remember the guy‘s last name who contributed greatly towards AC.
Nicola Tesla
Charles Steinmetz
George Westinghouse
 

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Why are long Distance DC interlinks dangerous?
They aren't.
Some might argue that "skin effect" affords some protection with AC but skin effect isn't going to help you much at 50 or 60 Hz.
 

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Hence Tesla (person) experimenting with high frequency. Even just 0.1A can kill you, either AC or DC.
But AC skin effect at high frequencies can increase that threshold, and allow some other things too.

The primary reason for low frequency generation was alternator rotation speeds being mechanically limited because of bearings and the like at the time. That's why 60Hz is 1800RPM and 50Hz 1500RPM. (Or derivatives thereof)
 

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Motors extracting the power prefer slower Hz, too, as well as clocks ^-^

-Crissa
My point was that alternators RPM on the same network are electromagnetically limited by frequency, hence why they have to be synchronized to the grid. For example to visualize, if you would put a mark on the rotor and stator position of any group of alternators whilst stationary, once started, connected and synced to the grid the rotor marks would pass the same point at exactly the same time (inside a 50th second for 50Hz and 60th second for 60Hz). It's actually a lot closer than that either leading or lagging, depending if you want to import or export VARs etc, but you get the idea. This is how many, non-quartz driven. bedside and oven clocks can keep time, by simply counting to 60Hz (or 50Hz) from the mains plug and adding a second to the clock.

As for motors/alternators extracting power at slower/lower frequencies, I'd expect that would depend entirely how the alternator was wound and excited. Typically higher RPM means higher power density, like with the Plaid motors.
 
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