Hopefully Cybertruck tow range is better than F-150 Lightning

[Ogre]

I'm considering a rack for either the 3 or our Smart. This is unexpected news; how much does this reduce range? I thought it would be very minimal. And we're talking bicycle not motorcycle right?



Well, not for the trip back, LOL. Seriously though, a common trip for us is Prescott and back, which takes like 50% to get there and only 20% back (made up numbers but close). I could see downhill towing actually adding a ton of miles.

Just this weekend. I have a Model Y LR range shows at about 303 miles right now. I had 3 bikes on the back which sticks out quite far. Drove 95 miles to Newport. When I arrived I had 52% charge. Essentially it shaves 1/3 of my range off.

With fewer bikes its less bad as they stick out less, but it’s a common issue I have. Also varies by bike and how tight your rack keeps the bikes to your vehicle. My bikes stick out about 3-4 feet from the back when loaded. It’s like a drag chute back there.

Good chance I’d have gotten home, but I dropped $1.50 and added 20 miles at a fast charger which I’d not seen last time I came through and it was more than enough. I probably would have been fine.

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[Alpine]

There is a weight limit on the batteries because it cuts into the maximum weight allowance (GVWR). There has to be a balance between the weight of batteries and the range. More batteries (weight) stops turning into longer range. As for what industry wants, I remember reading something about some diesel rigs having enough fuel tanks to go well over a thousand miles but that kind of range isn't necessary for the majority of drivers. There's also legal limits on how long drivers can drive in a single day and even if you double that with a two driver crew, 500 miles is a long way to drive in one day.

500m/70mph=7hr (driving across Texas or several northern states at 70mph) Even truck drivers need to stop once in awhile and if truck stops install V99 superduper chargers, hopefully a half hour pit stop would give them enough charge to go another few hundred miles.

I am a cdl driver myself. Still keep my certification up to date.

My rig was about 22k lbs and standard empty trailers are about 10k pounds which gives you about 50k payload. Some rigs are 17-18k lbs

You can go more than 80k but will need cert.

When you subtract the massive drivetrain and related hardware from the rig, i think there will be enough weight saving to stick whatever battery you wanted. They can build to truck industry standards as is but will likely take their input.

 

[Crissa]

Uphill both ways?

To be serious, there is a point at which the speed high or incline of the road is such that your benefit from the hill is greatly reduced. And if you have to actually use friction braking, well, that's just lost, too.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Well, not for the trip back, LOL. Seriously though, a common trip for us is Prescott and back, which takes like 50% to get there and only 20% back (made up numbers but close). I could see downhill towing actually adding a ton of miles.

Uphill both ways?

I was assuming pull the boat uphill, camp and boat a couple days (which runs down the battery) and come home. Unless it’s literally downhill the whole return.

Also, if you have a heavy trailer and trailer brakes, that’s not going into your regenerative braking.

 

[CyberGus]

I was assuming pull the boat uphill, camp and boat a couple days (which runs down the battery) and come home. Unless it’s literally downhill the whole return.

Also, if you have a heavy trailer and trailer brakes, that’s not going into your regenerative braking.

Ya'll are pissin' on my parade today geez

 

[Ogre]

Ya'll are pissin' on my parade today geez

Which way is the wind blowing?

 

[CyberGus]

Which way is the wind blowing?

I'm downwind, man, it's always downwind

 

[Firetruck41]

Not sure if this is the correct forum article but was watching an Electrified youtube video and he showed Musk saying "When fully loaded, the Tesla Semi should be able to achieve over 500 miles of range." To me that means the range of the Semi is based not on an empty trailer but a full one. My hope is Tesla will design the CT the same way, which they could do if they designed the battery size the same way they're designing the Semi's battery.

The problem is that there is no standardized consumer trailer by which to rate it. A boat/trailer, a fifth wheel trailer, a flatbed trailer hauling a load of steel, a dump trailer filled with sand... All could weigh the same, and yet have massively different range/energy consumption.

 

[Ogre]

The problem is that there is no standardized consumer trailer by which to rate it. A boat/trailer, a fifth wheel trailer, a flatbed trailer hauling a load of steel, a dump trailer filled with sand... All could weigh the same, and yet have massively different range/energy consumption.

The guys on the Now You Know YouTube Channel seem to be working their way through buying all the trucks. It would be a good project for them to benchmark all the various trucks along a fixed ~100 mile loop with various trailers on each truck.

(Those guys kind of annoy me, but they also have some decent content)

 

[CyberGus]

(Those guys kind of annoy me, but they also have some decent content)

kinda like being here

 

[SpaceYooper]

My towing experience driving from Colorado Springs to Lake McConaughey, NE.

Tow vehicle: 2013 F150, 3.5L ecoboost, leveled with 35s.

MPGs before hooking up the trailer

Smallish camper being towed

Avg MPGs for the round trip while towing

561.3 mile round trip averaging 6.4 MPGs.
It wasn't just towing the camper that cut into the MPGs (It rarely is though, so these numbers are typical) The truck bed was full of fire wood and beverages.

 

[SpaceYooper]

Oh...and I got about 7 MPGs going to the lake and about 6 MPGs coming back. It seems like it just rolling hills on the 280 mile drive but there is about a 3500 ft change in elevation.

 

[Crissa]

Smallish camper being towed

That is quite a bit larger than a 'small' trailer.

-Crissa

 

[SpaceYooper]

I said "smallish".

At 20' and a dry weight of 3100lbs it's smallish. Smaller then at least 1/2 the towed campers in the park we were at.

I rented this smallish camper because our intent was to actually camp on the beach in the sand. Long story short, that didn't happen. But it was still a good trip.

 

[Crissa]

I said "smallish".

At 20' and a dry weight of 3100lbs it's smallish. Smaller then at least 1/2 the towed campers in the park we were at.

I rented this smallish camper because our intent was to actually camp on the beach in the sand. Long story short, that didn't happen. But it was still a good trip.

But it's longer and taller than most trucks, let alone trailers. It's in no way small at all, except maybe in weight. But that weight clearly doesn't count the contents of the trailer.

Smaller than trailers in a camp is... Well, it's smaller than the vast majority of mobile homes, too.

-Crissa

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