How much extensive "truck" testing?

Deleted member 105

Guest
It's kinda mind-blowing to me that not a single photo has leaked. Not even of a camouflaged version. Most trucks are tested in a huge variety of environments - even BMW did some offroad stuff with their X5s. There's the snow / extreme cold weather tests up in Sweden / Norway / Greenland, hot weather testing in Arizona / Australia / New Mexico / SoCal, etc.

It raises the question - is their opsec really that good? Are they using private testing grounds nobody is aware of / monitoring with long lenses and such? Or just doing everything in "simulated" environments in their labs and such at work?

Not that I don't trust the simulated environments as it does allow for a hell of a lot of rapid iteration tweaking and potentially even more extreme circumstances, but...
Advertisement

 

stumby

Well-known member
First Name
Josh
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
120
Reaction score
258
Location
Philly
Vehicles
Model S P90D
Country flag
Woa I had this exact thought this afternoon! I was surprised how Tesla managed to keep everyone completely guessing at even a basic shape of it. That's why all the renderings so far are completely all over the map and so different hah. Most other vehicles managed to get spied during testing but somehow the truck hasn't.

You bring up a good point and I hope the Cybertruck wasn't engineered purely or mostly with computer modeling and simulations. And can extreme weather/temperature even be truly tested using computer simulators?
 
OP
OP

Deleted member 105

Guest
Oh I wasn't referring to just computer simulators. Tesla is perfectly capable of building their own wind tunnels, vacuum chambers, etc.

There are some giant ones that can be used to test things in temperatures ranging from -100 to +300 degrees in the same chamber.

Something like this maybe but on a bigger scale - and maybe with added shock simulators to bounce the vehicle around, plus a wind tunnel?

http://www.testingandsimulation.com/drive-in-vehicle-test-chamber/
 

Roadway Mike

Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
11
Reaction score
3
Location
Stanford
Country flag
My guess is given how unique and perhaps extreme the design is, even camouflage will not hide enough. The shape itself is a total secret which is so rare in this day and age of everyone who has a phone being an amateur spy photographer. It seems to be the plan all along as Musk has had to drop little nuggets of info about the design knowing no one will see even a hint of it before the reveal.

I'm sure Tesla went to great lengths to test this in their own hidden facilities but I do wonder also if you can get simulate all "real life" conditions like that in a truck that will have to deal with such a variety of uses/environments.
 

@RCHER

New member
First Name
Cale
Joined
Nov 19, 2019
Messages
2
Reaction score
2
Location
Seattle, WA USA
Vehicles
Only what I need
Occupation
IT
I guess I'm hoping for a heavy-duty commercial class vehicle. A powerful, capable, workhorse, charging-station-for-the-entire-work-site, targeting fleet markets...truck. I won't hold my breath,. But I can dream.
 

jyc78

New member
First Name
Jon
Joined
Nov 19, 2019
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Location
Pasadena
Vehicles
i3, RX350
Occupation
Attorney
Does Tesla have a known "proving grounds" where it tests its vehicles out of public sight?
 
First Name
Patric
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
7
Reaction score
11
Location
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Vehicles
Jaguar XFR, Toyota RAV4
Occupation
Healthcare
Country flag
I believe that the Model S Plaid with a "new platform" they were testing at the Ring was actually CYBRTRK in a Model S suit. Could test in plain site the high performance version, weight and the new platform and batteries. Verify the performance of a Porsche 911 aspects of the vehicle. If true, the more truck like aspects could be running around disguised as a Model X
 

stumby

Well-known member
First Name
Josh
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
120
Reaction score
258
Location
Philly
Vehicles
Model S P90D
Country flag
I believe that the Model S Plaid with a "new platform" they were testing at the Ring was actually CYBRTRK in a Model S suit. Could test in plain site the high performance version, weight and the new platform and batteries. Verify the performance of a Porsche 911 aspects of the vehicle. If true, the more truck like aspects could be running around disguised as a Model X
Interesting theory! And I could see that as a possible scenario. Tho presumably the Cybertruck will have towing and off-road capabilities and no Tesla prototypes have been spotted doing those?
 
First Name
Bruce
Joined
Nov 20, 2019
Messages
41
Reaction score
40
Location
Gold Run, CA
Vehicles
Model 3 Dual Motor
Occupation
Civil Engineer
Country flag
Does Tesla have a known "proving grounds" where it tests its vehicles out of public sight?
How about SpaceX facilities? They could build a track inside a hanger or go out into the middle of the property to test it off road.
 

xs0

Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2019
Messages
8
Reaction score
5
Location
Canada
Vehicles
Tesla Model 3 LR AWD, Jaguar XJ Supercharged, Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo V8
The CYBRTRK will be based on the Tesla Semi platform. The Semi has been thoroughly tested in all sorts of real world environments. Those tests likely translate quite well to the CYBRTRK.
 
First Name
Patric
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
7
Reaction score
11
Location
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Vehicles
Jaguar XFR, Toyota RAV4
Occupation
Healthcare
Country flag
The CYBRTRK will be based on the Tesla Semi platform. The Semi has been thoroughly tested in all sorts of real world environments. Those tests likely translate quite well to the CYBRTRK.
I doubt that. There are going to be some common parts, like the electric motors, which are evolved from the Model 3/Y, but a Semi platform would not translate to a pickup truck well. It would be much too heavy and too large to be practical.
 

ModelAZ

Well-known member
First Name
Jon
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
119
Reaction score
257
Location
Las Vegas
Vehicles
Jeep JK
Country flag
I doubt that. There are going to be some common parts, like the electric motors, which are evolved from the Model 3/Y, but a Semi platform would not translate to a pickup truck well. It would be much too heavy and too large to be practical.
So more likely a modified 3/Y platform? Hope that's heavy duty enough.
 

xs0

Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2019
Messages
8
Reaction score
5
Location
Canada
Vehicles
Tesla Model 3 LR AWD, Jaguar XJ Supercharged, Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo V8
Between a scaled down Semi platform and a scaled up 3 platform, my money is on the Semi :)
At any rate, can’t wait for tonight!
 

DaveH

New member
First Name
Dave
Joined
Nov 21, 2019
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Location
Ireland
Vehicles
Too many to list
Tesla does't need to test, it has the public for that! But it is odd that no prototypes have been seen around yet. Perhaps it's that far away from production that testing proper hasn't begun yet?
 
First Name
Patric
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
7
Reaction score
11
Location
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Vehicles
Jaguar XFR, Toyota RAV4
Occupation
Healthcare
Country flag
So more likely a modified 3/Y platform? Hope that's heavy duty enough.
I can't see it being the 3/Y platform scaled up either. The idea of a 200Kw battery makes me think it will be an evolved S/X platform. The chassis width required for a full size truck is a better fit for that platform as well as an easier fit for the battery. When you think about how the skateboard holds the battery, the relatively narrow track of the 3/Y would make it much harder to put such a big battery in.
 
Advertisement

 
Advertisement
Top