papajamaliciousness
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Oh wow thanks you gave me some other ideas.
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Personal use... Um... I need to feed my family and one way to do that is to trade the Cybertruck I have for fiat currency so that it can further be exchanged for food. If I'm using my Cybertruck to feed my family, is that not personal use?Here's what you're missing:
The seller (Tesla) is not the buyer (Tesla customer). So equating what the customer does with what Tesla does to justify it doesn't work in the system of capitalism you seem to love so much. You cannot buy a Cybertruck without signing a purchase/sale agreement with Tesla. That is a legally binding contract that the entrepreneur (Tesla) requires of every buyer. If you don't want to sign it, Tesla doesn't have to sell you one. When you buy one, you agree it is for your personal use. Now they are probably not going to stop you from flipping it once you buy it, and they couldn't stop you unless they could prove you bought it with the intention of flipping it. But they sure as hell have the right to refuse to sell you anymore. And that's exactly what they will do once they discover what you are doing.
Welcome to America, capitalism and entrepreneurship!
Sounds awesome, would love to know moreI have a plan to get around the resell stops and a couple dozen reservations with which to do so. Even if its just for the delta between $7000FSD and current it’ll turn into a free truck and a little cash.
Ex Land Rover instructor hereYou could recruit teachers from Lexus' performance driving school or Land Rover's or Subaru's offroad schools.
Was the majority of your training how to put out electrical fires and to clean the leaked fluids off the trail?Ex Land Rover instructor here
I was told once that the British don't make refrigerators. "Why?" I asked.Was the majority of your training how to put out electrical fires and to clean the leaked fluids off the trail?
I’d call that leeching off another’s ingenuity.Emphasis mine:
Personal use... Um... I need to feed my family and one way to do that is to trade the Cybertruck I have for fiat currency so that it can further be exchanged for food. If I'm using my Cybertruck to feed my family, is that not personal use?
How much would this throw a spanner in those works?Sounds awesome, would love to know more
Any thoughts on the efficacy of this as a market strategy to keep initial purchase price low, yet inhibit parasitic profiteering?And neither I nor earthman is trying to spread the disgusting capitalist idea of reselling Cybertrucks for profit in violation of the purchase agreement.
Thanks for this, thanks a lot for this actually. Again, it’s going to come down to risk level that reservation holders are comfortable with. There’s a lot of uncertainty with how this will play out. Simple answer, early reservation holders that want to flip their vehicles are in a very powerful position. Common sense will prevail. Flipping these vehicles, any of them under 500,000 in line, will generate a very healthy profit.How much would this throw a spanner in those works?
If you’re now not planning to sell your reservations, at what point would a resale restriction (like a two year lease to own covenant) inhibit your purchase?Thanks for this, thanks a lot for this actually. Again, it’s going to come down to risk level that reservation holders are comfortable with. There’s a lot of uncertainty with how this will play out. Simple answer, early reservation holders that want to flip their vehicles are in a very powerful position. Common sense will prevail. Flipping these vehicles, any of them under 500,000 in line, will generate a very healthy profit.
Corey Steuben from MonroeLive, expects to pay 2x the price for his extremely early (under 5000) reservation. He’s an expert in secondary markets. He estimates 2x right out the gate.
I figure for a reservation hovering around 100,000, it’ll be about a 20% markup plus the FSD price Delta. Which currently is $8000 if your a $7000 fixed FSD holder.
Two year lease is ridiculous. Waste of time even thinking about that, way outside of reality.If you’re now not planning to sell your reservations, at what point would a resale restriction (like a two year lease to own covenant) inhibit your purchase?