Is $10 premium connectivity sustainable?

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Currently, after the 1 year free. Tesla charges $10 a month for premium connectivity. I believe they use ATT.

Is this model sustainable as the fleet grows? I worry that ATT is going to be like, yo elon, this is too much. Pay more.

At that point our price has to go up too.

Solution? Starlink?

What do you guys think?
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At&t has over 200 million subscribers, there's only about 3-4 million Tesla out there, so that's less than 2% of total users, and ATT is always adding more capacity to their networks. Don't think it will be an issue for quite sometime.

starlink is a great system but has never been meant for serving millions of customers with today's current data usage. It's more meant for the rural and low population areas of the world with no or slow internet areas. My Tesla prob doesn't use much data except for streaming Netflix, which rarely happens maybe couple times a month.
 

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You only get a free year on S/X now, free month 3/Y. I wouldn't be surprised if Cybertruck is 1 month.

I friggin love premium since the Apple Music update!
 
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At&t has over 200 million subscribers, there's only about 3-4 million Tesla out there, so that's less than 2% of total users, and ATT is always adding more capacity to their networks. Don't think it will be an issue for quite sometime.

starlink is a great system but has never been meant for serving millions of customers with today's current data usage. It's more meant for the rural and low population areas of the world with no or slow internet areas. My Tesla prob doesn't use much data except for streaming Netflix, which rarely happens maybe couple times a month.
Long term if tesla is multi millions of cars per year it could become substantial. Not saying att can't handle. Just thinking they'd raise the price
 


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Tesla isn’t paying $10/ month to AT&T. Likely they make a small profit.

Hopefully Cybertruck uses Starlink, frustrating losing cellular in the sticks. Maybe they do a hybrid with T-Mobile and Starlink in the future.

Full Starlink mobile is $115+ / month for mobile service. I seriously doubt you’d get that as part of Premium connectivity. But if they offered it as an option, I would ditch my local Comcast service and use that for all internet. When I leave the house all my Siri stuff would weep.
 
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Tesla isn’t paying $10/ month to AT&T. Likely they make a small profit.

Hopefully Cybertruck uses Starlink, frustrating losing cellular in the sticks. Maybe they do a hybrid with T-Mobile and Starlink in the future.

Full Starlink mobile is $115+ / month for mobile service. I seriously doubt you’d get that as part of Premium connectivity. But if they offered it as an option, I would ditch my local Comcast service and use that for all internet. When I leave the house all my Siri stuff would weep.
Yea I wouldn't expect them to be paying exactly 10 lol.

But if their profits shrink they're not just gonna be cool with it. Would have to raise the price. I wonder how long that att contract is good.


I bet tesla would have a cheaper than 115/month plan for a starlink subscription considering the amount of data likely used on average.

I'm sure if they added starlink they'd try to make it so you couldn't siphon to other devices lol
 

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Would be awesome if they at least used starlink for a backup connection in those times where you are passing through rural areas that don't have great service coverage.
 
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$10 a month, just pay $100 a year. Save $20
I don't pay it at all tbh. Doesn't do anything I can't do on my phone or with hotspot
 


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I'm sure if they added starlink they'd try to make it so you couldn't siphon to other devices lol
I would want the reverse. The option for Starlink to be my everything internet. As in I get home and my home mesh network talks through my truck.

That way I would just need a cell phone and my truck and anywhere I go I’m lit up. I could take a pop up and spend the week in the boondocks with my pop up as my office.
 
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I would want the reverse. The option for Starlink to be my everything internet. As in I get home and my home mesh network talks through my truck.

That way I would just need a cell phone and my truck and anywhere I go I’m lit up. I could take a pop up and spend the week in the boondocks with my pop up as my office.
Thatd be dope. U less someone else lives in your house
 

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Starlink downlinks come in varying speeds. The package for vehicles is not likely to have the same bandwidth as the one for homesteads and villages.

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At&t has over 200 million subscribers, there's only about 3-4 million Tesla out there, so that's less than 2% of total users, and ATT is always adding more capacity to their networks. Don't think it will be an issue for quite sometime.

starlink is a great system but has never been meant for serving millions of customers with today's current data usage. It's more meant for the rural and low population areas of the world with no or slow internet areas. My Tesla prob doesn't use much data except for streaming Netflix, which rarely happens maybe couple times a month.
I think your argument is sound and completely irrelevant to AT&T saying “You’re using too much, you have to pay more”. If it’s popular, they’ll want to charge more.
 

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That doesn't sound right to me. If you are selling hundreds of something you have overhead you need to cover, if you are selling thousands of that same thing, each sale doesn't need as much profit to cover that overhead
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