Minimum Range YOU REQUIRE to go through with Cybertruck purchase

[Timelord]

What is the minimum range you REQUIRE to go through with YOUR Cybertruck purchase?

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[Jhodgesatmb]

Not enough choices. If you had offered ‘>400’ I would have chosen that. Unfortunately, I need more information, from Tesla, to make the decision: (1) recommended charging range to maximize battery life, and (2) charge time. With a recommended charging range of 20%-80% over 450 is what I require. If the range is 5%-95% then 400 is ok. In both cases, 360 usable miles.

 

[FarAway]

Not enough choices. If you had offered ‘>400’ I would have chosen that. Unfortunately, I need more information, from Tesla, to make the decision: (1) recommended charging range to maximize battery life, and (2) charge time. With a recommended charging range of 20%-80% over 450 is what I require. If the range is 5%-95% then 400 is ok. In both cases, 360 usable miles.

This is a BIG concern I have. I do like Jack's answer/caveats. The only addition I will add is these need to be "real world" miles not the typical "optimized scenario" miles we see.

 

[Timelord]

My intention was to make the poll as basic as possible to help keep the results relatively well bracketed and generally defined by one's personal thoughts.

I'm morbidly curious how a poll would go on what the 'right' way to define battery range is.

 

[wtibbit]

My minimum is actually 300, but that wasn't a choice, so I picked the highest choice under 300 just to see how the voting was going.

 

[Regenshire]

Why is 300 miles not on the poll? That is the announcement spec for Dual Motor and where a lot of Tesla's sit above.


As long as it is 300+ miles I am ok, as that is what my Model 3 has and I never have any issues with it for road trips.

 

[HaulingAss]

I'm getting one of the early production no matter how much range it has, then I'll follow up with a higher range model when it's released.

Anything above 250 miles will take care of 95% of what I need a truck to do. Tesla will not release any versions with less than that.

 

[SlegMD]

For initial release I’m ok with 300, will look forward to what’s going on in3-5 years

 

[Xepa777]

OP doesn’t know how to make a poll lmaoooo

 

[BayouCityBob]

I selected 450 but my "real" vote is 400. After driving a 405 mile model S for a while, I am happy with this for CT with all the various caveats that go along with it, 400 Tesla EPA range is my magic number.

 

[wanders]

I can't imagine buying a Cybertruck with less than 300 miles of range, unless it's specifically used as a local work-truck that doesn't take road trips/adventures (which is still a valid use-case). I'm holding out for 500+ miles because I plan to keep this truck for a long time, and plan to take it far distances.

 

[Crissa]

This is a BIG concern I have. I do like Jack's answer/caveats. The only addition I will add is these need to be "real world" miles not the typical "optimized scenario" miles we see.

There's no other way to do that. Your real world is my 'who would think that was median?'

-Crissa

 

[ÆCIII]

My preference depends on other factors combined with a given range, as well as price.

Tesla has already proven owner satisfaction of EV range for years, as evidenced by their sales volume increases. I think such a question would be more applicable if Tesla was brand new and launching a Cybertruck as their very first product, because then they'd have no track record.

But Tesla's already proven track record assures most that Tesla will provide a decent amount of range for the price. Tesla is ahead of most everyone else in this metric and battery technology, for production scale and price.

I think with the Cybertruck there are considerations in addition to range even if it is not always extreme or optimal. We have to remember it's a truck which will be towing or carrying so there will be range penalties in those situations, but the same as with all vehicles.

Regardless of what the experienced or optimal range figures are, I believe we should take comfort that for a truck of similar sizes and capacity, the actual Cost per Mile will be a fraction of the cost of similar ICE trucks.

I personally think it would be cool to have a poll where people just guess the average efficiency of a Cybertruck for a road trip with four passengers and luggage in the back on a day with decent weather. What would the Wh/mi (Watt-Hours per Mile) be for the Cybertruck in that situation? The Model 3 LR has typically done 250 Wh/mi, and Model 3 Performance cars have been doing around 305 Wh/mi which is still pretty good considering all the extra power and acceleration.

The Cybertruck obviously has room for a much larger battery so I don't think range is going to be a problem. That's why I'm curious also about efficiency. Tesla is only getting more advanced as they constantly strive to optimize their weight and battery tech for more efficiency.

So what would the Cybertruck's energy consumption be per mile? Considering the leaked weight specs of between 6,000 to 7,000 pounds, I'm taking a wild guess of about 380 to 400 Wh/mi. This efficiency metric does also determine range however, based on battery pack size. Below I used a spreadsheet calculator for a use case having a 170 KWh pack consuming 385 Wh/mi.

Note the Equivalent MPG of 65 is still three to five times better (cheaper) than an ICE vehicle if the gas price is $3.00 per gallon. It always comes back to being three to five times cheaper. But if gas prices are up at say $5.00 per gallon the E-MPG increases to 108, even better.

I think efficiency comparisons are important because they show benefits in lower costs of ownership. Yet using the example metrics above, the 170 KWh battery pack has 441 miles of range if the efficiency is 385 Wh/mi, which is not bad at all. But if a battery pack is 195 KWh, the range is 506 miles when consuming energy at 385 Wh/mi.

But if you extrapolate using weight (4250 lbs) of a Model 3 Performance and its efficiency (305 Wh/mile), and 7000 lbs as an estimated weight for the Cybertruck, then that would suggest the energy consumption of Cybertruck might be as high as 502 Wh/mi. In that case, a 172 KWh pack would still provide 342 miles of range. If you extrapolate for a 6000 lbs Cybertruck, the energy consumption is 430 Wh/mi, getting 400 miles of range out of a 172 KWh pack. Still not bad for worst case or other real world factors. Note the M3 numbers are based on actual experienced energy consumption in certain use cases. Ideal or other ranges experienced may be higher or lower. I'm thinking the range specification from Tesla could be higher than these use cases.

Considering the weight figures we've been given, possible battery sizes, and the efficiencies we see in Teslas, I think the Cybertruck's range will not disappoint.

- ÆCIII

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