More FUD from CNBC

[KHappe]

They find the worse cases. What about some best cases?

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[ÆCIII]

But what the propaganda from the main sleazy media really indicates - is Fear Uncertainty and Doubt - Of Themselves. Childish behavior widely known of someone insecure about themselves and jealous of others, because they don't have the belief in their own self to be inspired instead. Weakness and lack of faith in oneself - that's the MSM and legacy auto in a nutshell - as they continually prove with their negative and self-degenerating behavior.

 

[Crissa]

Ugh, another video where the driver is stupidly not holding onto the wheel or even ready to grab it. At no point should his hands go over the top, he's not turning around.

-Crissa

 

[Dusty]

People mad that an experimental driving system struggles driving on congested city streets and bad weather.

The one dipshit mentioned how he thinks that videos depicting successful drives were not representative of his FSD experience on the streets of... (wait for it)... Brooklyn! He mentioned this moments after admitting that he faked his way into the beta program.

I really loved his dramatic fumble-hands emergency steering technique as well.

The Consumer Report camera hack is then attempted as if to throw shade, but all they did was show how bogus the report was when FSD switched off.

mmmm... OK. I see what's going on here.

Most telling, no mention of actual figures regarding comparative accident numbers.

The next investigative report will be about sweaters only keeping people relatively warm instead of triggering immediate perspiration.

I think it's a travesty that these things are called sweaters. It's misleading. . . 90% of the time it only makes me comfortably warm.

 

[CyberGus]

Tesla's FSD is going to shine a bright light on social driving and traffic laws:

Everybody breaks the law, all the time. No one goes exactly the speed limit, and would be charged with "obstructing traffic" for driving below the limit. No one comes to a complete stop 100% of the time, nor uses their blinker without fail.

The laws are written for people, not robots. If the robot cars follow the letter of the law, they will drive like my grandmother. Human drivers will be outraged. A driver is responsible for "knowing the law" even when the street markings are faded, the traffic light is broken, and the signs are gone. What's a robot to do?

It's illegal to cross the double-yellow line, or drive on the shoulder. If someone is double-parked, you're supposed to wait, not go around. At best, this will induce violence in the drivers further back.

We either need to allow for some "fuzzyness" in traffic law, or accept that robots are going to drive like pedantic assholes. Maybe we need to have robotic cops, too.

 

[electricAK]

Frustrating video. Tesla really needs a PR/marketing arm to counter this stuff and set the narrative straight.

While it is annoying that CNBC chose to focus on the guy who is clearly anti-FSD, I think they are pointing out real issues that need to be fixed.

Most of this video is indeed them trying to fool FSD and use it in places that are super complex.

But it's good that they are pointing out the fuzzy areas where FSD needs to be allowed to break the law. Just like cruise control can allow you to speed, FSD must be allowed to break the law when required for safety. Like crossing the centerline to avoid deep snow.

I also think the FSD team might need to consider geofencing to improve performance and safety. There are simply areas where FSD is not ok. Many of those locations were highlighted in this video. It would be pretty easy to rank US roads with a complexity score and disengage FSD on roads with a score higher than say, 8. Also, I bet they've already run the analysis on where disengagements occur most. There may be no safe way to have FSD in these areas (and I bet it's less than 10% of roads in the US).

 

[electricAK]

It would be pretty easy to rank US roads with a complexity score and disengage FSD on roads with a score higher than say, 8. Also, I bet they've already run the analysis on where disengagements occur most. There may be no safe way to have FSD in these areas (and I bet it's less than 10% of roads in the US).

On that note, this is data that nobody else has. Tesla alone knows where FSD is working and where it is not. That might be the most valuable data of all.

 

[Albern]

I'm pleased that the comments section to the video appear to be overwhelmingly positive of FSD Beta.

Also, are Taylor Ogan and Kevin Smith related? Did they buy the same sweater at a 2-for-1 sale?

 

[DMC-81]

IMO, that was a thinly disguised hit piece.

The first driver was faulting a Beta system for hesitating in an 8-way intersection.... in Brooklyn NY! Lol.

Meanwhile, gm only has a geo-fenced area for their version of self driving. Not sure if that system is just promised or was actually offered on their 26? EVs delivered in 2021.

I get it though. I think the industry has woken up to this level of threat and is taking counter measures through any means possible:

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Tesla's FSD is going to shine a bright light on social driving and traffic laws:

Everybody breaks the law, all the time. No one goes exactly the speed limit, and would be charged with "obstructing traffic" for driving below the limit. No one comes to a complete stop 100% of the time, nor uses their blinker without fail.

The laws are written for people, not robots. If the robot cars follow the letter of the law, they will drive like my grandmother. Human drivers will be outraged. A driver is responsible for "knowing the law" even when the street markings are faded, the traffic light is broken, and the signs are gone. What's a robot to do?

It's illegal to cross the double-yellow line, or drive on the shoulder. If someone is double-parked, you're supposed to wait, not go around. At best, this will induce violence in the drivers further back.

We either need to allow for some "fuzzyness" in traffic law, or accept that robots are going to drive like pedantic assholes. Maybe we need to have robotic cops, too.

I wrote a patent application a couple years ago that would use swarm technology to have vehicles issue tickets to their drivers (the swarm being nearby vehicles that can verify the law infringement). I figured all the tickets would pay down the national debt in about 6 months, and then everyone would stop screwing around and drive like grandmothers. Of course, not even my boss would encourage the application nor did anyone like the idea.

 

[Zabhawkin]

Unless I am mistaken regular autopilot does not use the interior camera? If it doesn't the consumer reports lady complaining about it not working at the top of the screen it said she was using regular autopilot.

 

[Crissa]

Unless I am mistaken regular autopilot does not use the interior camera? If it doesn't the consumer reports lady complaining about it not working at the top of the screen it said she was using regular autopilot.

It does not yet, no.

But at the time of their report, neither did the others. It was implemented a little bit later...

-Crissa

 

[Zabhawkin]

They actually showed the beta disengaging when the camera was covered, and warning him for using the phone.

 

[jerhenderson]

People mad that an experimental driving system struggles driving on congested city streets and bad weather.

The one dipshit mentioned how he thinks that videos depicting successful drives were not representative of his FSD experience on the streets of... (wait for it)... Brooklyn! He mentioned this moments after admitting that he faked his way into the beta program.

I really loved his dramatic fumble-hands emergency steering technique as well.

The Consumer Report camera hack is then attempted as if to throw shade, but all they did was show how bogus the report was when FSD switched off.

mmmm... OK. I see what's going on here.

Most telling, no mention of actual figures regarding comparative accident numbers.

The next investigative report will be about sweaters only keeping people relatively warm instead of triggering immediate perspiration.

sweaters are hoaxes

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