New Model Y

[DFW]

Tesla is building a new Model Y with blade LFP batteries. The new Model Y will be available at the end of the month (August 21, 2022).

Why Berlin?
and
Why flat LFP?

I guess Tesla Berlin is sort of new production line and not fully ramped up due to battery limitations. So tooling for a flat blade LFP battery is easily incorporated into Berlin production lines. Also, Europe is more prone to accept new technology.

With Tesla going to the 4680 and now flat LFP battery pack, charging and control systems should be the same or very similar to the 4680 .

Nice! Tesla EvCar design with two battery pack formats.

Earlier this year, BYD confirmed that it is about to start supplying Tesla (TSLA) with battery cells. It was presumed that those cells would go to Tesla Gigafactory Shanghai.

Now a new report coming from Sina says that the cells are actually going to Gigafactory Berlin and that the first vehicles with the cells could roll off of the factory within a month (translated from Chinese

Tesla is reportedly going to build Model Y with BYD blade batteries at Gigafactory Berlin | Electrek

Chemistry
BLFP (BYD) QLFP (CATL) and 4680 NCM (Panasonic) are all the same battery chemistry. Lithium (L) Iron (F) Phosphate (P) or LFP with a chemical formula of
Li-Fe-PO4 (phosphate is 1 phosphors atom with 4 oxygen atoms)
Safety
BLFP and QLFP flat batteries maybe a little safer (penetration test) than Tesla's 4680 nickel-cobalt-manganese, or NCM round cell batteries
Future
Who knows we may see a EvTruck with flat LFP batteries!

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[Crissa]

They're making a Model 3 with this battery in Shanghai and Fremont, tho it's not been confirmed with a teardown yet.

-Crissa

 

[JBee]

Is it still a structural pack?

 

[charliemagpie]

Maybe Berlin because China will also keep producing for them. ?

SO why not use the about 200000 volume just for China market ?

Possibly Tesla doesn't want to promote BYD in China ?

Perhaps some of Europe's lesser known destinations are so marginalized as a market, that they can absorb without fuss. ?

 

[JBee]

Maybe Berlin because China will also keep producing for them. ?

SO why not use the about 200000 volume just for China market ?

Possibly Tesla doesn't want to promote BYD in China ?

Perhaps some of Europe's lesser known destinations are so marginalized as a market, that they can absorb without fuss. ?

They're already doing a M3 LFP in China and even for Oz. Not much of a news item that the MY gets it, M3 and MY pack are the same anyway?

 

[CyberGus]

Long-distance vehicle commuting is mostly an American phenomenon, which is why the US market tends to be more range-sensitive (plus we like everything bigger Bigger BIGGER!). Still, there's a price-sensitive segment that would enjoy a more affordable EV with a shorter (but still reasonable) range.

Currently, the 4680 is only being built in North America, so the other geographies are sourcing batteries from wherever they can. Since the EV battery market is resource-constrained, the variety of cells used at each factory is a natural consequence.

 

[happy intruder]

They're making a Model 3 with this battery in Shanghai and Fremont, tho it's not been confirmed with a teardown yet.

-Crissa

could be......they. just stopped accepting Model # orders except for the performance model......too bad.....will start back up is 2023

 

[Crissa]

LFPs are sold in the US. As I pointed out, some Model 3 are. The new battery in my car.

Until last year, they were not cost-parity with other lithium batteries due to patents.

LFP are slightly poorer on volume as well as weight to kWh capacity to other lithium.

-Crissa

 

[Crissa]

could be......they. just stopped accepting Model # orders except for the performance model......too bad.....will start back up is 2023

Yes, they're selling alot of them to rental fleets. The production is spoken for.

-Crissa

 

[firsttruck]

LFP is safer, lower cost, producible in high volumes. It is good enough to fulfill needs of many buyers.


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[Bill906]

Is it still a structural pack?

I believe the Austin Model 3 with 4680 batteries is the ONLY structural battery pack currently being used in vehicles.

 

[Crissa]

I believe the Austin Model 3 with 4680 batteries is the ONLY structural battery pack currently being used in vehicles.

Model Y.

Technically the battery packs in the Energica and Zero SR/F would also count as structural, but not as well as the Tesla pack.

-Crissa

 

[Bill906]

Model Y.

Technically the battery packs in the Energica and Zero SR/F would also count as structural, but not as well as the Tesla pack.

-Crissa

I should have ended with "... at least Tesla vehicles" as my knowledge beyond Tesla EV's is pretty limited.

 

[dtruckman]

I noticed my Y model order stepped up delivery by a month. I hope that is because of the battery .

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