Portable generator as "Range Extender"

[cybercricket]

i thing personally propane is the way to go . Can also be used to camp with . Just have no idea how much propane would be used in comparison to gas .

80% is a good approximation, i.e. 5 gallons of propane are an equivalent of 4 gallons of gasoline.

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[bosshog]

Any suggestions on what generator to get

 

[cybercricket]

Any suggestions on what generator to get

I asked you - how much can you lift ? If you're 90 years old and can barely walk yourself to take a dump, advice would be different from one to a power lifter.

 

[bosshog]

I asked you - how much can you lift ? If you're 90 years old and can barely walk yourself to take a dump, advice would be different from one to a power lifter.

Lol I am a brute .. can lift pretty good and can fight most bears away while i am having a dump in the woods ....

 

[cybercricket]

Lol I am a brute .. can lift pretty good and can fight most bears away while i am having a dump in the woods ....

Take a look at Honda EU7000ISNAN. It's 270lb and would charge the CT at a rate of approximately 15 miles per hour. Basically a product similar (a little bit less beefy) to the HF unit discussed earlier, but likely more dependable.

 

[scottf200]

Any suggestions on what generator to get

Take a look at Honda EU7000ISNAN. It's 270lb and would charge the CT at a rate of approximately 15 miles per hour. Basically a product similar (a little bit less beefy) to the HF unit discussed earlier, but likely more dependable.

Westinghouse?
WGen9500DFc - Dual Fuel with CO Sensor
https://westinghouseoutdoorpower.com/products/wgen9500dfc-dual-fuel-with-co-sensor

Westinghouse Outdoor Power Equipment 12500 Peak Watt Dual Fuel Home Backup Portable Generator, Remote Electric Start, Transfer Switch Ready, Gas and Propane Powered, CO Sensor

• 9500 Running Watts and 12500 Peak Watts (Gasoline); 8500 Running Watts, 11200 Peak Watts (Propane); Remote Start With Included Key Fob, Electric and Recoil Start; Up to 12 Hours of Run Time on a 6. 6 Gallon Fuel Tank With Fuel Gauge
• Features Two GFCI 120V 5–20R Standard Household Receptacle, One Transfer Switch Ready 120V L14-30R, and One RV Ready 120/240V 14–50R; All Outlets Have Rubber Covers for Added Safety
• Powered by a Heavy Duty 457cc Westinghouse 4-Stroke OHV Engine Featuring a Long-Lasting Cast Iron Sleeve With Automatic Low Oil and Carbon Monoxide (CO) Shutdown, and Digital Hour Meter

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099KTHXMK?linkCode=ml1&th=1

 

[cybercricket]

Westinghouse?

Westinghouse Outdoor Power Equipment 12500 Peak Watt Dual Fuel Home Backup Portable Generator, Remote Electric Start, Transfer Switch Ready, Gas and Propane Powered, CO Sensor

• 9500 Running Watts and 12500 Peak Watts (Gasoline); 8500 Running Watts, 11200 Peak Watts (Propane); Remote Start With Included Key Fob, Electric and Recoil Start; Up to 12 Hours of Run Time on a 6. 6 Gallon Fuel Tank With Fuel Gauge
• Features Two GFCI 120V 5–20R Standard Household Receptacle, One Transfer Switch Ready 120V L14-30R, and One RV Ready 120/240V 14–50R; All Outlets Have Rubber Covers for Added Safety
• Powered by a Heavy Duty 457cc Westinghouse 4-Stroke OHV Engine Featuring a Long-Lasting Cast Iron Sleeve With Automatic Low Oil and Carbon Monoxide (CO) Shutdown, and Digital Hour Meter

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099KTHXMK?linkCode=ml1&th=1

It doesn't mention in the Amazon listing, but most likely this unit is a simulated sine wave unit. Additionally, non-inverter types (unlike the above mentioned Honda) can't throttle down - they have to maintain constant RPMs even at low loads.

 

[bosshog]

Take a look at Honda EU7000ISNAN. It's 270lb and would charge the CT at a rate of approximately 15 miles per hour. Basically a product similar (a little bit less beefy) to the HF unit discussed earlier, but likely more dependable.

Thanks for the advice . Have looked at that generator . Very powerful and may to big to fit in the truck in terms of taking space . Was thinking of a smaller size or more compact .
Would the 3000 w generator work . I would imagine the charge rate would be slower .but maybe charging for 24 hrs would be ok in a camping situation and seems 3000 w or slightly more would be adequate . Any thoughts in this

 

[scottf200]

It doesn't mention in the Amazon listing, but most likely this unit is a simulated sine wave unit. Additionally, non-inverter types (unlike the above mentioned Honda) can't throttle down - they have to maintain constant RPMs even at low loads.

You bring up a very good point. It was ≤23% so not great.

Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) in a generator refers to how much the output voltage deviates from a perfect sine wave, and it directly relates to the purity of the electrical signal produced. THD is expressed as a percentage and indicates the level of harmonic distortion present in the generator’s output. Lower THD percentages mean cleaner, more stable electricity, which is crucial for sensitive electronic devices.

 

[scottf200]

Thanks for the advice . Have looked at that generator . Very powerful and may to big to fit in the truck in terms of taking space . Was thinking of a smaller size or more compact .
Would the 3000 w generator work . I would imagine the charge rate would be slower .but maybe charging for 24 hrs would be ok in a camping situation and seems 3000 w or slightly more would be adequate . Any thoughts in this

I realized you were talking to me but I asked a LLM about a similar 3000 watt one. It has good THD too.

 

[cybercricket]

Thanks for the advice . Have looked at that generator . Very powerful and may to big to fit in the truck in terms of taking space . Was thinking of a smaller size or more compact .
Would the 3000 w generator work . I would imagine the charge rate would be slower .but maybe charging for 24 hrs would be ok in a camping situation and seems 3000 w or slightly more would be adequate . Any thoughts in this

is that 3000W continuous, or peak ? If that's peak, then probably it's neither here or there. If that's continuous, then it would work well for pushing 24A@120V.

 

[cybercricket]

I realized you were talking to me but I asked a LLM about a similar 3000 watt one. It has good THD too.

That's a decent unit, but there are some considerations... so first of all, it will be able to push about 23A max, which means it will be slightly below the max of what L5-30 cable can offer for Mobile Connector (24A max). Second it weighs 134lb dry, about 144lb with a full tank.

For comparison, Honda EU2200 weighs 46lb and is able to deliver 16A continuously. When you use two in parallel they can deliver 32A max which means you can use 24A for charging CT, and there will be a few extra amps for running other loads at the same time. You also get redundancy - two units are unlikely to fail at the same time. And of course loading / unloading two 46lb units is a lot easier than loading / unloading a 134lb unit.

 

[bosshog]

That's a decent unit, but there are some considerations... so first of all, it will be able to push about 23A max, which means it will be slightly below the max of what L5-30 cable can offer for Mobile Connector (24A max). Second it weighs 134lb dry, about 144lb with a full tank.

For comparison, Honda EU2200 weighs 46lb and is able to deliver 16A continuously. When you use two in parallel they can deliver 32A max which means you can use 24A for charging CT, and there will be a few extra amps for running other loads at the same time. You also get redundancy - two units are unlikely to fail at the same time. And of course loading / unloading two 46lb units is a lot easier than loading / unloading a 134lb unit.

My understanding is the tesla mobile connector maxes out at 32 amps.

 

[bosshog]

Honda EU 2200 is the way to go then given the massive weight difference and not much change in amps and more compact.

 

[cybercricket]

My understanding is the tesla mobile connector maxes out at 32 amps.

Yes, but the actual amperage drawn by the connector depends on the adapter cable you're using. Official adapter cables for 120V don't support anything above 16A - so like Nema 5-20 is the beefiest Tesla offers, and it will push 16A max. To charge faster from a 120V source you need to buy an aftermarket adapter cable like the one I mentioned above, and it will only push 24A. I haven't seen anything beefier for use with 120V. Generators under 4000W typically don't provide 240V output.

https://shop.tesla.com/product/gen-2-nema-adapters

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