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An alternative scenario might be to improve your financial situation to make the CT4 a relatively cheap price too.
sure, another option is having a rich family to just buy me 1. :ROFLMAO:

 

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sure, another option is having a rich family to just buy me 1. :ROFLMAO:
Don’t unicorns poop candy or something? Can’t you just sell some of your crap?

Or maybe heal virgins with the touch of your horn?

Gotta be some angle here. It’s either that or make a lot more bottle openers.
 

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With the car markets in such chaos and soaring price points, any idea how this may impact our reservation prices?
If Elon doesn’t quit burning cash, and letting employees go, we might? All it takes is one bad cup of coffee to raise prices. We have seen it regularly with other Tesla models?
 

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Prices are going way up. I'll be happy if I can get a long range dual motor for under $100k CAD.
 


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I would like to know what makes something “4 wheel drive”?

My car has 2 motors which directly transfer power to the wheels. It is a more direct connection than any 4WD truck on the market. Most 4WD trucks have a differential so it’s not that.

So what exactly makes my car not 4WD versus a Toyota pickup truck?

Same question applies to the tri motor.

I get what the difference between a motor per wheel versus a motor driving a differential is. But you used the term 4 wheel drive here which muddies the water.
I was responding to someone else's usage of the term, but to answer your question 4WD means that you are mechanically driving all 4 wheels. Traditionally that meant a transfer case and a separate transmission providing you with 2-Wheel High, 2-Wheel Low, 4-Wheel High, and 4-Wheel Low modes (the Low modes are crawl - high traction, low speed - modes typically limited to less than 15 mph). Several decades ago lockout hubs were introduced so that you could free two of the wheels. Later they came up with on-demand 4WD but it was still using a transfer case and separate transmission. 4WD is typically used in demanding/dangerous and offroad conditions where traction loss can be common: steep/uneven terrain, rocky terrain, deep sand, mud, water, snow, ice, etc.

All wheel drive (AWD) was introduced for more urban settings to retain traction. It is not controlled by the driver as is 4WD, there is no transfer case or separate transmission. It is generally associated with anti-slip or traction control.

These terms both originated for single engine vehicles.

BEVs with multiple motors and torque vectoring introduce new notions of AWD because now you can independently provide power to the wheels. It 'could' be much more like 4WD, and possibly better, but that is not how Tesla has implemented it to date in their AWD variants; it is still an anti-skid/slip system. If they go the distance with the CT then (and especially with the quad-drive, 4 wheel steering) the term AWD should be dropped and replaced with something new like All Terrain Drive (ATD), All Condition Drive (ACD), or Total Control Drive (TCD). Then discussions like this would not be necessary (unless people wanted to compare the three :) ).
 

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You are dead wrong. Tesla honors their quotes. When they increase prices it is on new orders. I have bought a Model 3 and a Model Y and both times there were price increases between the time I ordered and the time I got the vehicle and Tesla always honored the price they quoted me.

You may want to check the pre-order agreement then.

"Pre-Order Price, Taxes and Official Fees. The pre-order price of the Vehicle will be confirmed in your Vehicle Configura'on and Final Price Sheet. As you
may have only configured part of your Vehicle, any pre-order price provided to you in advance of the Final Price Sheet is only being offered to you as an
es'mate and is subject to change"
 

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Price Increases?

Arguing that of course there will be a price hike for a vehicle that took the risk to release a price in 2019 (years before planned production) and has not yet come to market is the equivalent of stating the people that run Tesla are ignorant idiots who didn't realize there could be inflation, and they should probably also account for some level of unkown, since they didn't even have a factory yet, they didn't know what the competition was going to bring, they didn't assume some level of "mission creep" or "project creep" or "objective creep" (whatever you want to call changes to the truck) and they were years out from even their own optimistic timeline for production starting the end of 2021. If you think they were so ignorantly bliss to all these things when they undoubtedly took a calculated risk to release a price years in advance of production (albeit not a price guarantee) then you must think Tesla is run by idiots. I don't.
I still do not expect a price change.
 
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If Elon doesn’t quit burning cash, and letting employees go, we might? All it takes is one bad cup of coffee to raise prices. We have seen it regularly with other Tesla models?
Burning cash?

You mean like the way the Chbertruck factory is burning cash?

seems like a weird thing to cut
 

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You may want to check the pre-order agreement then.

"Pre-Order Price, Taxes and Official Fees. The pre-order price of the Vehicle will be confirmed in your Vehicle Configura'on and Final Price Sheet. As you
may have only configured part of your Vehicle, any pre-order price provided to you in advance of the Final Price Sheet is only being offered to you as an
es'mate and is subject to change"
Your comment fails to address or even talk about the comment you replied to.
 


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Your comment fails to address or even talk about the comment you replied to.
How does it not? We are talking about Price Increase and tesla honoring the price.

The Pre-Order Agreement states that it is subject to change.
 

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How does it not? We are talking about Price Increase and tesla honoring the price.

The Pre-Order Agreement states that it is subject to change.
It says the total price is subject to change. Which includes options, fees, and taxes.

Also, what happened to Rivian when they raised their price?

And also, Tesla has always kept their promises, with this language in their reservations, even when they had to raise the price.

-Crissa
 

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Threading needles here, but we have reservations not pre-orders.
 

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It says the total price is subject to change. Which includes options, fees, and taxes.

Also, what happened to Rivian when they raised their price?

And also, Tesla has always kept their promises, with this language in their reservations, even when they had to raise the price.

-Crissa

Fair enough. But i thought with Rivian, they were already producing/taking delivery of the Truck and then they decided that they were going to increase Price. We arent even remotely close to that point.

 

 
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