Rear view with bed cover up

[whtmsting]

Now that a number of your have your trucks. I am really wondering what real world driving is like using cameras on the screen. There was a review by Throttle House that brought up this as an issue and I am wondering on other people's experiences.

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[exmechanic]

My question is: Why isn't the rear camera image projected onto the rear-view mirror when the bed cover is closed? This would solve the problem of looking down at the screen.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

My question is: Why isn't the rear camera image projected onto the rear-view mirror when the bed cover is closed? This would solve the problem of looking down at the screen.

Yes, but it wouldn’t address what happens when it rains, or sludge, or snow, or glare, and to be great really needs to incorporate the side camera views. There is a company that makes one but it hasn’t been adapted to Tesla vehicles.

 

[swengl]

I'm hoping to see a similar product for the Cybertruck available soon: Camera cover

 

[Woodrick]

Try covering your rearview mirror and driving. It just takes a little getting used to.

My question is: Why isn't the rear camera image projected onto the rear-view mirror when the bed cover is closed? This would solve the problem of looking down at the screen.

Tesla wants to remove all the mirrors, not make them more expensive.

Looking down at the screen isn't an issue. Just as looking up to the rear-view mirror isn't one.

 

[TwiztOG43]

My question is: Why isn't the rear camera image projected onto the rear-view mirror when the bed cover is closed? This would solve the problem of looking down at the screen.

This becomes less of a problem over time.
I have found it difficult not to look at the non/existent screen when changing lanes in my non-Tesla vehicles. It has become muscle memory.

 

[TwiztOG43]

I'm hoping to see a similar product for the Cybertruck available soon: Camera cover

That only addresses liquid, not dirt and debris that accumulate over time.

not to mention, the hydrophobic properties of the lens cover degrades so it only lasts a couple months.

 

[Woodrick]

So many truck drivers can't use a center mirror.

 

[Spacenoddle]

So many truck drivers can't use a center mirror.

But they do have much larger side mirrors to see the back, don't they?

 

[cvalue13]

Now that a number of your have your trucks. I am really wondering what real world driving is like using cameras on the screen. There was a review by Throttle House that brought up this as an issue and I am wondering on other people's experiences.

one issue that neither throttle house nor anyone on this thread have pointed out:

depending on your eyesight, there can be a big difference between a mirror and video

if you are nearsighted, you’ll see a video image better (because the “far away” image is actually near you, on the screen)

if you are farsighted, you’ll see a mirror image better (because the “near by” image is actually far away, in the mirror)

 

[agordon117]

one issue that neither throttle house nor anyone on this thread have pointed out:

depending on your eyesight, there can be a big difference between a mirror and video

if you are nearsighted, you’ll see a video image better (because the “far away” image is actually near you, on the screen)

if you are farsighted, you’ll see a mirror image better (because the “near by” image is actually far away, in the mirror)

While I'm not actually getting back into the mirror debate (don't know what more there is to say)...

There really isn't a benefit to the video image in this way, regardless of where it's placed. If you are focused out to infinity driving forward, and you look at a mirror, you are still focused out to infinity. If you look from the road to a screen, your eyes do have to readjust. That readjustment happens whether you are near or far sighted.

 

[cvalue13]

While I'm not actually getting back into the mirror debate (don't know what more there is to say)...

There really isn't a benefit to the video image in this way, regardless of where it's placed. If you are focused out to infinity driving forward, and you look at a mirror, you are still focused out to infinity. If you look from the road to a screen, your eyes do have to readjust. That readjustment happens whether you are near or far sighted.

maybe I was unclear

I wasn’t intending to say anything about the location of the “mirror”/“screen” in the vehicle

whether the mirror/screen is up on the normal windshield area, or down on the dash, is irrelevant to the (limited) point I was making


yes, your eyes have to “readjust,” either way

What’s different, if anything, is whether an individual’s eyes (and their particular method if sight correction), does or doesn’t jive well with the fact of looking at a mirror (generally better for farsighted people) or instead a video (generally worse for farsighted people), and vice versa


to take the point one step further: note that folks with bifocals/progressives, typically have their correction (via glass or lenses) oriented in such a way to have better farsighted vision when looking forward or upwards, and better nearsighted vision when looking downwards

so generally, for these folks a video at dashboard level would generally be better (because you’re looking more downward towards something ‘close’) as opposed to upwards at the windshield for a video.



I’d you’re still in disagreement/think I’m in error here, based on something you’ve said previously that I’ve missed (totally possible) then I’m not sure what it is

 

[agordon117]

maybe I was unclear

I wasn’t intending to say anything about the location of the “mirror”/“screen” in the vehicle

whether the mirror/screen is up on the normal windshield area, or down on the dash, is irrelevant to the (limited) point I was making


yes, your eyes have to “readjust,” either way

What’s different, if anything, is whether an individual’s eyes (and their particular method if sight correction), does or doesn’t jive well with the fact of looking at a mirror (generally better for farsighted people) or instead a video (generally worse for farsighted people), and vice versa


to take the point one step further: note that folks with bifocals/progressives, typically have their correction (via glass or lenses) oriented in such a way to have better farsighted vision when looking forward or upwards, and better nearsighted vision when looking downwards

so generally, for these folks a video at dashboard level would generally be better (because you’re looking more downward towards something ‘close’) as opposed to upwards at the windshield for a video.



I’d you’re still in disagreement/think I’m in error here, based on something you’ve said previously that I’ve missed (totally possible) then I’m not sure what it is

No, we're good. I know you weren't saying it mattered where the display was located. It had just come up in this thread (and elsewhere), so that was the only reason I mentioned it.

It's interesting to consider someone with bifocals, but I was unable to turn up how much of the population not only needs corrective lenses, but wears bifocals/progressive lenses.

 

[cvalue13]

It's interesting to consider someone with bifocals, but I was unable to turn up how much of the population not only needs corrective lenses, but wears bifocals/progressive lenses.

top of mind for me, because I do

if I’m going to have to look at a video (and so rely on nearsighted vision), it’s better for me that the video is at dash level than up at the headliner

as for the portion of the population?

I’d suspect it’s greater/greatest at the age range of folks buying $80-120K new vehicles

 

[agordon117]

I’d suspect it’s greater/greatest at the age range of folks buying $80-120K new vehicles

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